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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8th 1947.

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying beast has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you are listening to fate to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening

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bespoke radio

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today's monday november 8th

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311 days into the new year only 54 days

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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a total undisclosed location

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but it is beautiful

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it is i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and the an x network

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i'm just jimmy church what is cracking

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everybody how you doing

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ah yes

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tonight we have very special guest

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whitley strieber

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whitley streamers joining us to discuss

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the new film the observers

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the world premiere is next week next

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thursday on november 18th

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it's going to be a great conversation

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tonight with whitley tomorrow night mike

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rexecker is back with us

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we're going to be talking about

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the alaska triangle

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and maybe some other stuff too as well

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wednesday night is another fader night

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with open lines all night long

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there is no show this thursday

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because i'm on the road to the star

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works usa conference

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in laughlin nevada the all the above and

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which is this november 12th through the

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uh on thursday uh the 11th i'll arrive

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there thursday the 11th the conference

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itself is the 12th through the 14th in

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laflin nevada at the aquarius hotel and

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and i can't wait to just hang out with

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and uh i'm pretty much ready

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i'm pretty much ready

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uh in fact i well uh i still have to

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pick up some dry cleaning

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and uh it was so funny so the dry

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cleaners this stuff has got to be done

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on wednesday man it can't be thursday no

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no problem mr church okay all right well

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now we shall see

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is where you can go for tickets in info

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and i will see everybody there it's

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going to be great i just cannot wait

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cannot wait there's nothing like a good

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conference hanging out

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i'm on the phone all day long and i just

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dude why are you whispering and i'm not

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somebody will go hey jimmy what's going

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i got my jolly rancher lollipops

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and i've been doing these all day by the

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okay so uh that's what's going on

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uh the unnext network will be running a

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and then this network itself there will

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be nothing live on youtube

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and everything else uh it'll just be

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replays uh from the night before it'll

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so that's what's going on there okay all

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right follow me on twitter at j church

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radio i just posted

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um up over in twitter i'm going to talk

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with a skunk on it

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i want you to go check it out at j

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church radio follow me right there

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and you can see this picture in my

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and this picture is is about as cool

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and i want you to go find the skunk

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that's all you got to do go find the

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and i'll talk about um all of this more

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in just a minute

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and uh follow me on twitter at j church

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radio hashtag f2b is the sandbox

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hashtag f2bq is fade to black questions

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hello to everybody wherever you're

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listening or watching annex network

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right wherever you guys are hanging out

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right now how you doing

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i've got it up here

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let's see let me check the let me check

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let's see what's going on

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spacex's crew 2 mission will return four

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in the next 20 minutes

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that's right sometime uh around 7 33 p.m

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uh so sometime in the next 23 minutes

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spacex's next crude launch for nasa

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will launch the four crew 3 astronauts

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this wednesday liftoff is set no earlier

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than 303 pm pacific time known as crew 3

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the mission will mark spacex's fourth

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all right let's get to show cracking

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happy birthday to today

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one of the funniest one of the best

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parker posey

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hands down

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best in show

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uh but a mighty wind

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we can't forget you know those are two

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and she was amazing in those but

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dazed and confused i think that was her

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first move that was everybody's first

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minnie riperton today is 74. most of you

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don't remember minnie

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just an amazing voice and uh big voice

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of the 70s ricky lee jones today is 67.

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chuck e's in love

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and bonnie rate today

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is 72.

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our dead guy's birthday today is ricky

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lawson 1954 to 2013 tied at the age of

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there is no question that ricky was one

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of the greatest drummers in history

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he worked with the best

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stevie wonder michael jackson eric

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clapton phil collins whitney houston

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he co-founded the yellow jackets and won

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the 1987 grammy award for the best r b

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for and you know that from their album

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ricky became disoriented

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while performing at a jazz club

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on december 13 2013 in seal beach

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california he was diagnosed with a brain

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aneurysm and treated at long beach

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he died 10 days later on december 23rd

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he was just 59 years old incredible one

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maybe the best

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on this day in history 1887

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doc holliday

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gunslinger

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this day in 1887. fader fact

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someone born

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who died in 35

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a.d at the age of 90

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would have witnessed the rise and fall

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of julius caesar

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the reign of augustus

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cleopatra's entire reign of egypt and

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the fall of egypt to rome

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that that is crazy

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we could do the same thing if you went

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1900 to 1990 the same 90 years

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holy crap

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all right well tonight on this show

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whitley strieber joins us

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and uh to discuss the new film the

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observers now the world premiere for the

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observers

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is next thursday november 18th

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and it can't get here fast enough i

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cannot wait for thursday to get here

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and uh whitley's in the film with us

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we're going to be talking about all of

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that there are links in the description

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box below

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where you can go and not only see the

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trailer for the observers but there is a

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link there to purchase the film for next

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thursday okay so all of the links for

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that are down below

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tomorrow night

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mike ricksecker is with us we're going

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to be talking about the alaska triangle

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wednesday night

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is fader night not thursday wednesday is

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another fader night with open lines all

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night long because there is no show on

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thursday i am on the road

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in my jeep

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that's right

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i'm heading out to the star works usa

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conference in laughlin nevada the

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official stream

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uh

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really starting to bother me

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the stream keeps stopping i am going to

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try this i'm going to go straight

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okay now this feed isn't stopping okay

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all right let me mute this

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[Music]

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i just want to see the splashdown

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splashdown is now 18 minutes away

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and uh i'm watching it live right here

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along with the rest of you okay

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rivermoonwellness.com all the links are

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over at jimmychurchradio.com

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best coffee in the world

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no question about it uh this weekend uh

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a couple of things happened so i i

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posted some

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some pics

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and one of them was of the four aces

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motel

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and i'll get to that in just a second um

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but this also involves river moon coffee

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so

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uh i have a

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i have a burr grinder

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and if you're a coffee person

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you should know what a burr grinder is

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um a coffee grinder uh

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most of you are familiar with the coffee

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grinders that you know just you know

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shaped like a can they got a thing on

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the top

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that's a blade grinder it's got a blade

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in there

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right cut your finger off

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and that's fine

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okay i get that

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a burr grinder

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is a different type of grinder

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and it's got a big basket and you fill

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it up full of beans you see them at

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restaurants

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and so you get this thing and it's full

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of beans and then so you're not doing it

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one at a time it's always full of beans

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and then just press the button

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and it'll grind for you okay

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you

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there are different grinds do different

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things

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i like my stuff

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strong

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i want the finest grind i want the grind

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to be powder

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okay i don't want that

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you know when you're a kid you open up

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the the folgers can that your mom had

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and you know it's chunky no no you don't

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want that kind of grind

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and i was messing with the burr grinder

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and i kind of screwed things up and i

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had to get the grind back

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and and i did

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and i just made the most amazing pot of

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coffee

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it was amazing and i was oh river moon i

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love river moon so anyway i'm i pound

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through this cup of coffee

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and suddenly

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let's go drive in the desert

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and and i'm standing there

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and it happened just like this i just i

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was talking to a friend of mine you guys

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know him kurt james uh the guitar player

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and

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the the four aces motel man

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and i was like

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what and so he so i look it up and sure

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enough

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the four aces motel house of a thousand

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corpses

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right rob zombie

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and and other movies right and the diner

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and the gas station and

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and i was like holy crap

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it's not close by it's

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30 miles out into the middle of the

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desert it's a 30 mile drive

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into the middle of the desert

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and and i'm standing there and i'm you

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know drinking the coffee

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suddenly had this new found energy and

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i'm thinking

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i got a full tank of gas

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i'm fully clothed

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i've got shoes on

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grab your sunglasses

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and go to the four aces motel

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all right

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let's go so i do

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i put the lid on the cup got my travel

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thing going on

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full cup of coffee

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i jump in the jeep

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and and i take off now you can go and uh

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look up if you want you can look up the

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four aces motel and you can

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find it and you can uh check it out it's

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a real place

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and uh

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and you can see that it is truly

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in the middle of the desert

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and uh so i take off now as i'm driving

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out there

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uh

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i'm driving by

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some pretty crazy places

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and this is this is what happened now

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uh i didn't post any of these pictures

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yet and i'm a little reticent i posted

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one of skunk works the skunk building

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to

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post these pictures a couple of weird

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things happen

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i drive past

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okay

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and and i and and i'm i'm in the middle

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of the desert and

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and i see this big brown building coming

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up it's it's off in the distance but

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but it's big

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[Music]

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it's like general motors big

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and and i'm behind somebody

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this person is slowing down and they

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pull and they turn to the right and

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they're going up this road and i look

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and it's a security gate like a real

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security gate

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and uh and and i pick up my phone and i

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go snap snap snap i slow down

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and i took some

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pictures and then as we

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went past

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man i swear this stuff is going to get

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me in trouble just talking about it

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as i'm driving

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is full

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i'm talking about thousands of cars on a

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sunday afternoon

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in the middle of the desert all right

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and i'm looking i'm like what's going on

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here

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that's that's that's a full shift right

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and uh and i snap a couple more pictures

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and something just said to me you know

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what don't talk about this stuff

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you know and it was just really strange

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to me

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so uh i continue on and i drive out

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another 10 miles

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make a right-hand turn make a left-hand

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turn make a right-hand turn i'm way out

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in the desert and i pull up to the four

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aces motel and

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and

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much to my disappointment as i pulled up

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they're friggin filming a movie there

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and

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it's production trucks it's it's it's uh

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dressing rooms

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lights cameras sound people cars packed

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and i pull up in the fade to black jeep

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man and i pull up and i stop on the side

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of the road and everybody's looking at

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me and i think that they probably

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thought i was there for the production

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um

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uh it's in the middle of the desert

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right if you're pulling up to this spot

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you got to be there for a reason right

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and and i see everything going on and i

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was so bummed out because i wanted to go

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uh you know hang out and and do a live

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stream from the four aces motel and the

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diner and the gas taste it's all creepy

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and and i couldn't do it

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i couldn't do it and uh

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i don't want to say anything more than

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that because this is a production of

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what they were doing there that's their

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thing i'm not going to talk anymore

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about it but uh so i take a couple of

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shots of the four aces sign

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and i posted that and i saw everybody's

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reaction everybody thought that my jeep

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broke down it didn't

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uh i just was merely cracking a joke if

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you're ever out in the desert alone and

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your car breaks down this is the place

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to stay

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i didn't realize that everybody thought

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when i said you know rob zombie and i'm

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about to check in hahaha

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i didn't realize everybody thought that

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my jeep broke down but my deep didn't

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break down anyway so i turned around the

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corner there's the diner i jump out and

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i take some pictures of that and i get

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in the jeep and i split

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and um

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and as i'm driving back

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uh

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i'm

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i

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don't know how many

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square miles but everything is barbed

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wire everything is warning no

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trespassing everything

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yeah all that stuff and it's everywhere

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and uh and i drive by probably

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four or five

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heavy-duty security gates

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manned like

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the real deal stuff and i'm taking

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and uh at each one

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and i pull up to this next one and this

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silver

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i don't want to give away too much

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silver dodge hemi cuda nice

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and he he's coming out of the gate

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and he stops and i'm at where it's and

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and i continue and he pulls along aside

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me and i look and i could see he had

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like a

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i don't want to say too much but he had

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a uniform on

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and uh and he's next to me then i pull

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up behind him and i make another right

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hand turn

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and

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so he leaves one security gate drives a

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couple of miles drives around this is

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all barbed wire fences and stuff and he

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pulls into another gate and that's when

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i looked up and saw the skunk works

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building

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i'm looking right at it

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and i just took my camera

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snap snap snap snap snap

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and i kept driving

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the next stop

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this is this was my sunday

571
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and this is where it got a little bit

572
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:51,279
weird so i'm driving along this fence

573
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:54,320
and i see two sr-71s

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and uh

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two

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sr-71s

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00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:01,919
and i i pull over and i decide that i am

578
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:04,080
going to take a picture

579
00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:08,720
of these sr-71s which are right here

580
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:11,520
okay right there sr-70 ones two of them

581
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:13,919
and so i'm i'm i'm at the fence right

582
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:16,080
and i'm taking pictures and

583
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:18,640
and stuff and and i'm in the dirt along

584
00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:20,320
the side of the road and i turn and i

585
00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:23,039
look and i see this car not a not an suv

586
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:24,559
car pull out

587
00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:26,480
and park behind me

588
00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:29,440
in the dirt about 50 yards back

589
00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:31,120
just sitting there

590
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:32,559
and i'm

591
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:39,669
and uh i was like okay there's nobody

592
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:41,039
out there

593
00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:43,679
it's the desert there's nobody there

594
00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:46,720
just my jeep and this car

595
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:48,640
that pulls out of the security gate and

596
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:51,360
you just sit in there

597
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:53,440
i was like all right i jumped in the

598
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:54,480
jeep

599
00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:56,159
and i split

600
00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:57,520
he didn't follow me he stayed right

601
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:58,480
there

602
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:00,240
but uh

603
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:03,120
and i i swear and so me talking about

604
00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:06,399
this right now i just if what this is

605
00:30:11,669 --> 00:30:09,760
this is how i see all of this unraveling

606
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:11,679
is that i know that they got my license

607
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:14,080
plate i know that they've run and i know

608
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:15,520
that they've probably jumped on the

609
00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:17,919
internet i know that they they know now

610
00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:21,039
are they listening right now

611
00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:24,399
right i kind of let

612
00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:27,200
i let my hand show i let my four aces

613
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:29,039
show

614
00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:31,840
and so that's why

615
00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:34,880
i didn't post any of these pictures

616
00:30:39,990 --> 00:30:38,000
and i just felt like

617
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:40,000
right now it's not the right thing to do

618
00:30:42,470 --> 00:30:40,799
so

619
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uh uh

620
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:44,640
uh over the weekend it was this morning

621
00:30:48,149 --> 00:30:46,799
this all happened yesterday

622
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:48,159
um i'm out in front of my house and i

623
00:30:52,630 --> 00:30:50,159
had to do the trash cans and i was doing

624
00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:52,640
that and for some reason

625
00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:54,159
i had this

626
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:56,159
thought pop into my head

627
00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:58,480
somebody's gonna pull up and have a chat

628
00:31:01,909 --> 00:31:00,159
with me

629
00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:01,919
yeah

630
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:03,600
it's gonna happen

631
00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:07,360
am i just making myself a little bit too

632
00:31:11,110 --> 00:31:08,799
visible

633
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:11,120
i'm just saying but i got i got some

634
00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:12,480
amazing pics

635
00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:14,559
all right i'm gonna take a break because

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00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:17,600
tonight whitley strieber is here we are

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going to be talking about tonight

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00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:22,480
the new film the observers it is

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worldwide release coming up

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thursday november 18th the links for the

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trailer for the observers is in the

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video description box below of course

643
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it's throughout social media

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and also in the trailer link

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is another link to go and purchase

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tickets all right or purchase the film

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pre-order

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the film

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i'm your host jimmy church tomorrow

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night rick uh mike rick sucker is with

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us

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we're gonna be talking about the alaska

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triangle wednesday night is another

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all right welcome back

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fade to black i am your host jimmy

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00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:44,800
church tonight whitley strieber is

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joining us tomorrow night mike

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00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:49,040
ricksecker is here to talk about the

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00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:50,880
alaska triangle

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00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:52,880
and uh wednesday night is fader night

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open lines all night long we are off air

754
00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:58,400
on thursday i've got stuff to do but

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00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:00,720
tonight whitley joins us we're going to

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00:37:05,589 --> 00:37:03,599
be discussing the new film the observers

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00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:05,599
in this movie whitley along with linda

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00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:07,119
moulton howe richard dolan luella

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00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:10,079
elizondo william henry john greenwald

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00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:12,720
jesse ventura and debbie cobble

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00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:15,760
all discuss what disclosure means for

762
00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:18,640
our world today and the movie goes much

763
00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:20,320
deeper than that we'll be discussing all

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00:37:26,069 --> 00:37:22,560
of that tonight because whitley he's

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someone who has changed our world view

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he is one of the iconic cultural figures

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of our time of course he is the author

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00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:33,359
of the communion series of books and

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00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:35,200
many novels ranging from the wolfen and

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00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:37,520
the hunger to the grays and the alien

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00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:40,000
hunter series communion the wolfen and

772
00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:42,240
the hunger and superstorm have all been

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made into movies superstorm of course

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00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:48,320
was the day after tomorrow his website's

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unknown country.com and streamer.com are

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right there on our website and

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throughout social media and go and

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subscribe to unknowncountry.com i would

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like to welcome back to fade to black

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00:38:03,910 --> 00:38:01,760
the one and only whitley strieber

781
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whitley good evening young man how you

782
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:06,640
doing good evening jeff

783
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:08,560
jimmy excuse me

784
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:10,640
i'm having allergies tonight so there

785
00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:13,760
may be a few little glitches uh but good

786
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:15,839
evening jimmy it's good to be here yeah

787
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:18,000
it's always good to uh see and hear you

788
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:20,800
my friend and i you know i am losing my

789
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:21,839
voice

790
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:24,720
so tonight i'm gonna go into my uh

791
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:27,440
uh my best wolfman jack and i'm just

792
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:28,880
gonna

793
00:38:36,870 --> 00:38:34,960
a natural wolfman jack definitely

794
00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:36,880
one of these days i'm going to try to uh

795
00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:39,040
work up a good impression

796
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:40,880
and and see if i can fake a few people

797
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:42,240
see if i can bring him back from the

798
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:43,280
grave

799
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:47,520
um and now whitley uh uh on on a serious

800
00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:48,480
note

801
00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:51,760
um i just recently uh moved here to

802
00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:55,040
palmdale and i'm out here in the desert

803
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:57,839
and where all the secret stuff goes on

804
00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:59,440
you've been in southern california for a

805
00:39:03,910 --> 00:39:01,680
long time you've heard about this area

806
00:39:06,790 --> 00:39:03,920
have you ever driven around out here and

807
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:06,800
and checked things out

808
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:09,359
where exactly is palmdale in in relation

809
00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:11,440
to joshua tree and i can tell okay well

810
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:14,079
joshua tree is east into the mojave

811
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:16,320
desert i'm on the west side

812
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:18,560
of the mojave so if you take the five

813
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:22,000
freeway right up into the grapevine

814
00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:23,920
before you get to the grapevine you hit

815
00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:26,560
another freeway called the 14. yeah i

816
00:39:30,390 --> 00:39:28,400
know the 14 yeah so it's out on the 14th

817
00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:30,400
yeah you take the 14 and that takes you

818
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:33,599
straight to palmdale yeah okay well

819
00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:35,040
here's what i have to say about the

820
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:37,440
mojave just in general

821
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:39,440
there's a reason that the movie them

822
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:41,520
remember that movie

823
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:43,599
i do where

824
00:39:49,589 --> 00:39:47,280
it's gigantic ants yes i'm swarming out

825
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:49,599
of underground that happens in the

826
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,510
trinity site was in the mojave

827
00:40:02,710 --> 00:39:59,589
and the mojave is a

828
00:40:05,109 --> 00:40:02,720
long for many long years has been a

829
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:05,119
place of

830
00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:06,640
a mystery

831
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:10,079
and it's an ominous place in many ways i

832
00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:12,000
have to tell you and i'm not going to go

833
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:14,319
into much detail here

834
00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:16,560
i spent

835
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:18,880
i had an urge to spend some time out in

836
00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:20,079
the mojave

837
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:22,880
in a really isolated area

838
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:25,359
why would i have this urge

839
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:28,720
well i i attribute it now to a moment of

840
00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:30,000
insanity

841
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:33,200
anyway i went to airbnb and i ran a

842
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:34,400
cabin

843
00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:36,720
and way out so far out that you you had

844
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:39,119
to drive a couple of miles on a dirt

845
00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:41,520
road to get to it and it was the only

846
00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:46,150
um

847
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:49,839
let me put it this cabin

848
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:51,760
no one i don't think it

849
00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:53,760
was haunted for anyone else

850
00:40:56,710 --> 00:40:55,359
but i have

851
00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:56,720
never had

852
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:58,800
things

853
00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:00,480
glasses broke

854
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:02,960
spontaneously had to apologize the lady

855
00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:04,560
who owned it i'm sorry the glasses have

856
00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:06,960
broken are broken she was very sweet

857
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:08,160
about it and said no

858
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:10,000
don't not mine but what i didn't tell

859
00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:11,280
her was that they'd just broken

860
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:13,520
spontaneously

861
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:15,760
the door kept opening even though i had

862
00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:17,280
locked it

863
00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:20,880
it was a hard night and

864
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:22,480
the next morning the first thing i did

865
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:24,319
was get out of there and come home and

866
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:26,000
that's the end of my

867
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:27,839
my experience with the mojave i've had

868
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:30,400
the moabi no more mojave

869
00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:34,000
the it's it's this is a crazy place and

870
00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:35,680
and there is uh

871
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:37,680
uh you know you have skunk works out

872
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:40,240
here right you've got uh you've got all

873
00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:42,000
of that happening with lockheed you have

874
00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:44,400
northrop grumman you have air force's

875
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:47,119
famous plant 42

876
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:49,200
uh where allegedly you know that's where

877
00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:51,119
some of the bodies are kept

878
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:53,359
you have edwards air force base and all

879
00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:55,680
of its notoriety uh where things have

880
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:57,119
happened over the years

881
00:42:03,270 --> 00:41:59,359
and then you have the other element that

882
00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:03,280
goes along with that but everybody here

883
00:42:07,510 --> 00:42:04,880
works there

884
00:42:09,430 --> 00:42:07,520
right so everybody has got some secret

885
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:09,440
job

886
00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:11,359
let me ask you this then

887
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:14,160
why in the world did you move there of

888
00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:17,040
all places you're curious to maybe hope

889
00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:18,480
to meet some of the people with secret

890
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:20,800
jobs and learn stuff that's right

891
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:24,640
and and i've always wanted to be here

892
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:26,400
and you

893
00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:28,640
i know the feeling my friend

894
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:31,280
yes yes yes yes yes yes

895
00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:33,359
and and and

896
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:35,520
and i have seen things

897
00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:37,200
i've seen things out here that i just

898
00:42:41,270 --> 00:42:39,040
cannot explain

899
00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:41,280
and it's a lot of fun experience was in

900
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:44,960
the mojave yes that's right that's right

901
00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:47,440
uh the um

902
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:49,839
uh i had this uh i've told the story

903
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:51,599
many times on the air but i haven't

904
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:53,280
shared this with you

905
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:55,680
um i've been here for about three or

906
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:57,680
four months now and while i was looking

907
00:43:02,550 --> 00:42:59,839
at property here

908
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:02,560
um i was staying at uh

909
00:43:07,109 --> 00:43:05,200
a hilton suites or something

910
00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:07,119
and uh

911
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:09,119
and i had an appointment with my realtor

912
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:10,560
i'm going to give you the short version

913
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:15,040
of this story and and i had a few

914
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:18,880
hours right this was the next day so

915
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:21,520
um the night before

916
00:43:27,990 --> 00:43:24,640
um i'm standing out uh

917
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:28,000
and and i'm in front of the uh hotel and

918
00:43:31,829 --> 00:43:30,160
it's at night and i'm looking i know

919
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:31,839
that edwards

920
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:34,000
whitley is just like right right in

921
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:35,680
front of me somewhere

922
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:38,160
so i look i grabbed my phone and i look

923
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:39,200
and i'm like

924
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:42,160
it's not that far away

925
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:43,440
let's go

926
00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:45,200
okay all right

927
00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:48,319
and i was gonna drive to a drive-through

928
00:43:52,309 --> 00:43:50,560
and get some fast food anyway so i

929
00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:52,319
thought okay i'm gonna drive out into

930
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:55,119
the desert and and go check it out

931
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:56,480
and then come back and hit a

932
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:58,960
drive-through and go to bed

933
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:00,720
and uh because i have this appointment

934
00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:02,720
the next day

935
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:06,839
oh whitley's got the old style phone

936
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:09,359
so that's my bringer i'm sorry i i

937
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:10,880
turned it off ah

938
00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:12,720
so i um

939
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:16,480
i drive out to edwards and and and and i

940
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:18,400
don't know where i'm at

941
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:21,280
but i try to get as close to edwards as

942
00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:24,800
i can but um i see that i'm up against

943
00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:27,920
the property line according to my gps

944
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:30,240
and and i get out i'm in the middle of

945
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:31,280
whitley

946
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:34,400
the middle of the desert

947
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:36,560
and i get out of my jeep and i walk

948
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:39,359
across the road and and i'm standing in

949
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:42,000
the dirt and as i look up and i can see

950
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:43,440
edward's in front of me and it's a

951
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:44,880
little bit lit up and i can see what's

952
00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:46,880
going on and then right

953
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:50,079
in front of me this is what i see and

954
00:44:54,309 --> 00:44:53,200
it's about i'm going to say a mile away

955
00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:54,319
not that

956
00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:56,000
high up

957
00:44:59,270 --> 00:44:56,720
it

958
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:59,280
off of the ground but in the dark of the

959
00:45:02,309 --> 00:45:00,480
sky

960
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:02,319
i see this

961
00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:04,400
thing flutter

962
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:06,800
like static on a tv that's what it

963
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:08,640
looked like to me and then all of a

964
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:09,839
sudden this

965
00:45:20,309 --> 00:45:16,550
in the middle of the sky

966
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:20,319
and it's white and i was like

967
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:21,920
no

968
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:23,280
stop

969
00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:25,200
and and now i'm looking back into the

970
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:27,119
blackness of the sky

971
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:28,800
and i've got my cell phone in my hand

972
00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:31,200
whitley it's down here by my side don't

973
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:32,960
ask me why

974
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:34,560
i didn't think of it

975
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:35,680
but

976
00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:38,240
as i'm looking it does it again

977
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:43,510
with this ring of light

978
00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:45,359
and i could see

979
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:47,119
its shape

980
00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:49,119
now i stand there now i've got my cell

981
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:51,760
phone out i get the video right i'm

982
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:54,480
ready to go nothing happens

983
00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:56,640
i stand there for another 20 25 minutes

984
00:46:00,790 --> 00:45:58,000
nothing happens

985
00:46:01,670 --> 00:46:00,800
i i get in my jeep and i split the next

986
00:46:03,430 --> 00:46:01,680
day

987
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:03,440
and i'm thinking all the way back to the

988
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:05,200
hotel

989
00:46:10,069 --> 00:46:08,000
it was this it was that i'm trying to

990
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:10,079
debunk it in my mind

991
00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:12,480
the next day i get up and i've got like

992
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:16,079
three hours to the meeting uh with this

993
00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:18,480
realtor which is at like two o'clock so

994
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:20,560
it's like 10 in the morning

995
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:22,160
and uh

996
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:23,680
i'm going back

997
00:46:29,349 --> 00:46:26,319
so i jump back in my jeep i go back to

998
00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:29,359
my gps i go to the exact same spot now

999
00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:31,280
i'm there in the middle of the day

1000
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:33,599
and and i pull up

1001
00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:36,000
i see my footprints i see my tire prints

1002
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:38,160
from the night before i go back across

1003
00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:39,520
the street

1004
00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:41,599
and uh in the middle of the desert and i

1005
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:43,760
i took a friend out there

1006
00:46:47,829 --> 00:46:45,119
um and

1007
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:47,839
later i found how remote we were i mean

1008
00:46:52,870 --> 00:46:49,920
it's in the middle of the desert anyway

1009
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:52,880
i go up and i look back at edwards

1010
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:55,200
and there's nothing there i was thinking

1011
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:57,119
it was something on the top of the tower

1012
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:58,160
maybe

1013
00:47:02,950 --> 00:46:59,920
you know some kind of warning line there

1014
00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:02,960
was nothing there's nothing there

1015
00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:05,520
and that's i i'd have nothing more to

1016
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:07,520
the story than that i don't know what to

1017
00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:10,480
make of it i don't know what i saw i

1018
00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:12,640
haven't seen anything i haven't seen

1019
00:47:16,550 --> 00:47:14,160
that again

1020
00:47:19,829 --> 00:47:16,560
but that's why i moved here it's a it's

1021
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:19,839
a crazy part of the world man

1022
00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:22,240
well that's a great story and uh you

1023
00:47:26,069 --> 00:47:23,599
know they're

1024
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:26,079
they're testing a lot of

1025
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:28,800
there are a lot of of exotic what would

1026
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:30,640
seem to me to be would seem to us to be

1027
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:32,319
exotic aircraft

1028
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:33,440
that are

1029
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:34,480
on the

1030
00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:38,400
in the last phases of being tested and

1031
00:47:43,349 --> 00:47:41,680
they're going to be deployed and you may

1032
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:43,359
being that it was at edwards and you

1033
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:44,880
could see it

1034
00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:46,640
i think it's

1035
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:49,119
possible that it's already deployed

1036
00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:50,960
as to what it is

1037
00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:53,920
uh i do know that electromagnetic

1038
00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:55,599
propulsion is

1039
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:58,480
a big factor in some of these planes if

1040
00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:01,119
they are planes anymore actually right

1041
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:03,359
um and it

1042
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:05,520
sounds like that's what you were seeing

1043
00:48:08,510 --> 00:48:06,400
as a

1044
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:08,520
device that was supported by

1045
00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:10,880
electromagnetic propulsion

1046
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:12,000
um

1047
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:14,240
and and since you didn't hear anything

1048
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:15,920
and it didn't move

1049
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:17,920
that's it's conceivable that that's the

1050
00:48:21,670 --> 00:48:20,160
only

1051
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:21,680
that's all it has

1052
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:23,119
which means

1053
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:24,960
that we have made

1054
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,200
definite breakthroughs in the direction

1055
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:29,200
of ufo propulsion

1056
00:48:33,910 --> 00:48:31,760
and it is not

1057
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:33,920
being bled out in any way into the

1058
00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:36,079
public space which is

1059
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:38,720
unfortunate because we are desperately

1060
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:40,400
in need of that

1061
00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:42,800
it was right in front of me

1062
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:45,760
you know and and going back out there a

1063
00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:47,520
friend of mine eric

1064
00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:50,319
who you've met uh eric awakening man

1065
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:52,559
um i took him back out there uh about a

1066
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:54,160
month later

1067
00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:57,200
and i forgot how far out

1068
00:49:02,069 --> 00:49:00,079
and how remote this location was but

1069
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:02,079
we went right up there we were right at

1070
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:05,200
the fence line uh to the exact same spot

1071
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:06,960
and yeah i'm looking down you can see

1072
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:08,400
the hangers you can see everything's a

1073
00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:10,400
couple of miles away it's not like right

1074
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:13,680
in front but uh and i'm triangulating

1075
00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:16,319
everything so what i saw was probably it

1076
00:49:20,549 --> 00:49:18,880
was close maybe two miles

1077
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:20,559
yeah there's no way to tell at night

1078
00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:23,200
without no but it was in focus though

1079
00:49:28,950 --> 00:49:24,640
that was the other thing it wasn't

1080
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:31,190
razor sharp it was it was right in front

1081
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,079
of me

1082
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:34,240
so that that's why i'm here and if you

1083
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:35,520
want to come out

1084
00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:37,359
we'll uh break some bread

1085
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:39,119
and i'll tell you yeah i can do that and

1086
00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:41,200
i'll take you to the fence line man

1087
00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:43,599
working on a book now and i'm

1088
00:49:46,950 --> 00:49:44,960
in a

1089
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:46,960
in the working on a book state which

1090
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:49,040
means two things

1091
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:50,240
one is

1092
00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:52,800
i don't do much of anything else except

1093
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:56,000
my dreamland shows and two is

1094
00:50:02,309 --> 00:49:59,440
i have essentially no functioning memory

1095
00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:02,319
for anything except the book how did can

1096
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:04,160
you take me you know what you and i have

1097
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:06,400
never talked about this

1098
00:50:08,069 --> 00:50:07,280
um

1099
00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:08,079
uh

1100
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:10,720
you're i've read so much of your stuff

1101
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:13,200
over the years and i've also had a lot

1102
00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:15,520
of conversations with you too

1103
00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:17,440
and

1104
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:21,760
this the other day

1105
00:50:25,589 --> 00:50:24,400
i don't know i have so much respect for

1106
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:25,599
authors

1107
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:28,640
the discipline you know the mindset that

1108
00:50:33,190 --> 00:50:30,480
you have to go into

1109
00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:33,200
take me through that what what when when

1110
00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:35,359
somebody like yourself

1111
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:38,800
has to have that kind of discipline

1112
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,359
um what what what do you have to go

1113
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:43,440
through what is the process

1114
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:45,440
there has to be an obsessive element in

1115
00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:47,200
your personality

1116
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:49,440
and also uh you have to be

1117
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:51,359
essentially unbreakable

1118
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:52,559
because

1119
00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:56,480
you you you can't

1120
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:58,480
write for your audience

1121
00:51:01,589 --> 00:51:00,160
if you're writing for your audience

1122
00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:01,599
you're not going to produce anything

1123
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:02,960
they want to read

1124
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:05,440
uh you have to write for yourself

1125
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:07,200
you have to write for what you

1126
00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:08,400
you care about

1127
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:10,480
but in terms of the

1128
00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:12,240
the logistics

1129
00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:13,520
frankly

1130
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:15,119
you need if you're going to do the kind

1131
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:17,680
of work i do you need a good memory

1132
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:18,880
and an

1133
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:20,960
analytical ability you need all that

1134
00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:23,920
stuff but you also need

1135
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:26,400
the determination

1136
00:51:31,829 --> 00:51:29,599
to face the blank page every day

1137
00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:31,839
and not just in the morning but every

1138
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:34,240
time you finish a page another page

1139
00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:35,359
comes up

1140
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:37,520
and that's blank too

1141
00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:38,480
so

1142
00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:41,680
you but um what is it a series of

1143
00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:43,839
challenges do you set it up

1144
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:46,480
it's a continuous unending challenge

1145
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:49,119
right and um

1146
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:51,680
and it you know you have to you have to

1147
00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:53,440
be ready to dig into something more

1148
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:55,680
deeply than you thought possible the

1149
00:52:02,230 --> 00:51:57,359
first

1150
00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:02,240
is

1151
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:06,240
not

1152
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:08,240
and if the answer is no

1153
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:10,800
i don't think i could write this book i

1154
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:12,400
have a book

1155
00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:14,640
that's the challenge right

1156
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:16,880
that's that that means

1157
00:52:20,870 --> 00:52:18,480
you've got a book

1158
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:20,880
if you think oh yeah i can write this

1159
00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:23,520
you have no book the book won't work the

1160
00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:25,440
list no one will be interested the

1161
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:26,960
readers won't be interested the book

1162
00:52:33,190 --> 00:52:30,480
won't won't mean anything to anybody

1163
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:33,200
but it's when you think it's impossible

1164
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:35,040
and you try anyway that's when you've

1165
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:37,680
got a good book what's the uh what's

1166
00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:41,200
that uh the game with the pole that you

1167
00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:44,000
have to dance under

1168
00:52:47,430 --> 00:52:45,359
you know uh

1169
00:52:49,990 --> 00:52:47,440
like the high jumping it gets lower and

1170
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:50,000
lower oh i know that's a

1171
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:52,160
it's in the caribbean cultures yeah

1172
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:53,680
what's that called

1173
00:52:57,670 --> 00:52:55,760
i have no idea i can't remember you're

1174
00:52:59,670 --> 00:52:57,680
asking me a question like that while i'm

1175
00:53:03,030 --> 00:52:59,680
writing the book you have no

1176
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:03,040
my name i might have to think about it

1177
00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:06,000
oh what's the last letter in your last

1178
00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:06,800
name

1179
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:08,559
i don't know jimmy

1180
00:53:14,230 --> 00:53:10,480
you tell me i'm waiting for the day when

1181
00:53:16,790 --> 00:53:14,240
somebody says and you are and i say hold

1182
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:16,800
on i'm thinking i'm back

1183
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:18,559
well it's like that right where you're

1184
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:20,720
just going to lower the bar lower the

1185
00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:23,119
bar to where it's impossible that's

1186
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:25,200
where you need to be

1187
00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:28,400
right exactly and uh and

1188
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:31,040
so how do you fight that and i i hear

1189
00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:33,760
this asked of authors all the time you

1190
00:53:37,829 --> 00:53:36,000
know the the infamous right the writer's

1191
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:37,839
block

1192
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:42,480
even know what that is i i think it's

1193
00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:44,720
i i think it's people who are

1194
00:53:47,829 --> 00:53:46,480
who don't have good ideas because if

1195
00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:47,839
you've got a good idea you're not going

1196
00:53:50,630 --> 00:53:49,599
to have writer's block

1197
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:50,640
um

1198
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:53,040
or you can't have i i've known i knew a

1199
00:53:58,549 --> 00:53:54,720
writer

1200
00:53:59,670 --> 00:53:58,559
who had the best idea for a horror novel

1201
00:54:01,910 --> 00:53:59,680
i

1202
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:01,920
have ever heard

1203
00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:04,640
the idea was so good

1204
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:06,559
that it intimidated him and he couldn't

1205
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:08,319
write it

1206
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:09,520
and

1207
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:11,760
i didn't write it because

1208
00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:13,599
it was his idea

1209
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:15,200
then he died

1210
00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:19,040
now i've forgotten what it was anyway

1211
00:54:25,589 --> 00:54:23,599
anyway and and so do you um uh

1212
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:25,599
i've i've seen

1213
00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:28,720
uh depictions of this where authors will

1214
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:30,960
you know like post it and notes and

1215
00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:32,800
thumbtacks and

1216
00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:35,200
plot out the chapters i don't i don't do

1217
00:54:38,069 --> 00:54:35,920
that

1218
00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:38,079
i have friends who do

1219
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:40,480
you know their their their

1220
00:54:45,109 --> 00:54:42,640
workspaces are loaded with those things

1221
00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:45,119
but i i'm not i can't read my own

1222
00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:47,680
handwriting anyway so there's no point

1223
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:49,599
because i'll write it down and then

1224
00:54:54,150 --> 00:54:52,000
a day later i look at what the hell is

1225
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:54,160
that did i write that oh my god i must

1226
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:57,839
have what does it say no idea whatsoever

1227
00:55:02,069 --> 00:55:00,240
so did you did you ever write in

1228
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:02,079
longhand

1229
00:55:08,069 --> 00:55:05,520
uh no i always wrote either

1230
00:55:10,789 --> 00:55:08,079
well no i take that back

1231
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:10,799
i did write in longhand a long long time

1232
00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:12,559
ago

1233
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:15,119
when i was still living in san antonio

1234
00:55:18,950 --> 00:55:16,480
at home

1235
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:18,960
and my mom

1236
00:55:25,109 --> 00:55:21,839
would rewrite it in her

1237
00:55:26,549 --> 00:55:25,119
handwriting so people could read it

1238
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:26,559
i have uh

1239
00:55:32,789 --> 00:55:30,720
i'm left-handed and i have um

1240
00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:32,799
i've got something wrong with

1241
00:55:37,510 --> 00:55:35,440
my motor control on the left it's it's

1242
00:55:40,390 --> 00:55:37,520
nothing you would i'm not conscious of

1243
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:40,400
it but my handwriting is very is not

1244
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:42,960
very good it's never been very good

1245
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:45,920
uh when i was a little boy

1246
00:55:50,230 --> 00:55:48,559
i did mirror writing you know everything

1247
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:50,240
was mirror writing

1248
00:55:55,349 --> 00:55:53,520
and the sister in the second grade

1249
00:55:56,549 --> 00:55:55,359
used to sit me in her lap at the lunch

1250
00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:56,559
hour

1251
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:59,680
and just take my hand my left hand

1252
00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:00,720
and go

1253
00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:03,119
drawing circles uh

1254
00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:05,520
loops across the page and filling page

1255
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:08,319
after page with these loops going from

1256
00:56:13,030 --> 00:56:11,359
left to right instead of right to left

1257
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:13,040
and gradually

1258
00:56:17,829 --> 00:56:15,599
i ceased to do mirror writing

1259
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:17,839
but at the same time my hand was never

1260
00:56:20,789 --> 00:56:19,440
very good

1261
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:20,799
and so

1262
00:56:25,670 --> 00:56:22,240
then you made

1263
00:56:30,309 --> 00:56:25,680
there's the transition uh before

1264
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:30,319
software right and writing programs yeah

1265
00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:32,799
typewriter typewriter yeah

1266
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:34,000
i had uh

1267
00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:36,319
any number of typewriters

1268
00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:37,520
um

1269
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:39,599
at least you know typewriters didn't

1270
00:56:43,349 --> 00:56:41,200
generally blow up like the other

1271
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:43,359
computers did i i used to go through

1272
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:45,839
computers like they were candy

1273
00:56:49,510 --> 00:56:47,760
because they would explode when i got

1274
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:49,520
excited

1275
00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:51,520
in fact everything exploded the computer

1276
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:53,680
the printer the printer guy used to come

1277
00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:55,760
every week to fix the printer

1278
00:56:59,109 --> 00:56:57,359
because every time i got excited the

1279
00:57:01,589 --> 00:56:59,119
printer would fail

1280
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:01,599
and annie and he used to say listen

1281
00:57:05,349 --> 00:57:03,599
quickly it's too expensive your writing

1282
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:05,359
career is costing us more than it's

1283
00:57:09,910 --> 00:57:08,160
making you've got to calm down okay we

1284
00:57:11,109 --> 00:57:09,920
can't keep replacing all this stuff

1285
00:57:13,510 --> 00:57:11,119
because computers and things were

1286
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:13,520
expensive as hell in those days

1287
00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:16,240
and so you're saying that you would emit

1288
00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:18,720
this energy that would i still do i

1289
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:22,960
still do i i'm just the last computer

1290
00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:27,670
meltdown i had was about a year and a

1291
00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:30,640
half ago it was right before cove about

1292
00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:34,000
a month or so before covid and

1293
00:57:37,589 --> 00:57:35,920
the computer in this office is not this

1294
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:37,599
computer it's another

1295
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:39,280
another computer

1296
00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:42,240
suddenly just went totally beserk

1297
00:57:45,670 --> 00:57:43,520
and i

1298
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:45,680
started you know quickly calm down calm

1299
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:46,880
down

1300
00:57:50,069 --> 00:57:47,920
and then

1301
00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:50,079
the image on the computer screen got

1302
00:57:52,630 --> 00:57:51,119
tiny

1303
00:57:53,829 --> 00:57:52,640
like a little postage stamp in the

1304
00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:53,839
middle of the screen and then just

1305
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:55,040
winked out

1306
00:57:59,430 --> 00:57:57,200
and i thought i've blown it up

1307
00:58:02,309 --> 00:57:59,440
i need to i'm and i i was in the middle

1308
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:02,319
of work i had to work to do so i got the

1309
00:58:06,390 --> 00:58:03,760
computer

1310
00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:06,400
i went down to the car

1311
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:08,400
put it in the trunk

1312
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:11,200
it was a it was a desktop

1313
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:13,040
and uh

1314
00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:14,640
turned on the car

1315
00:58:18,069 --> 00:58:16,400
and the car

1316
00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:18,079
went nuts

1317
00:58:29,270 --> 00:58:18,880
the

1318
00:58:32,390 --> 00:58:29,280
speedometer went started shooting all

1319
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:32,400
the way to its farthest like 120 and

1320
00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:34,720
back again back and forth back and forth

1321
00:58:39,990 --> 00:58:36,960
the horn started honking

1322
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:40,000
and then it all went dead

1323
00:58:44,470 --> 00:58:41,760
and i couldn't start it again it

1324
00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:44,480
wouldn't even click it was just dead

1325
00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:46,640
so i called triple a

1326
00:58:51,109 --> 00:58:48,799
and i wait there and he's there quite

1327
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:51,119
promptly they're good triple a you know

1328
00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:52,559
they know you know they're not you don't

1329
00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:54,640
sit and wait for four hours

1330
00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:57,280
so he's there about 20 minutes later

1331
00:59:00,950 --> 00:58:59,359
he gets in the car he says well what was

1332
00:59:02,710 --> 00:59:00,960
the problem he said well i think it's

1333
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:02,720
got a short in it

1334
00:59:06,630 --> 00:59:05,200
and um

1335
00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:06,640
i tell him what happened he said you

1336
00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:08,240
know sir i've never heard anything like

1337
00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:10,400
that before in my life and i've

1338
00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:12,240
dealt with a lot of cars you might have

1339
00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:14,720
a major electrical problem of some kind

1340
00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:17,119
i said well in any case it's dead maybe

1341
00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:18,960
you could jump start it

1342
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,119
and he tries to turn it on

1343
00:59:25,349 --> 00:59:23,280
and it turns on

1344
00:59:29,349 --> 00:59:25,359
it was fine

1345
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:29,359
it needed no further work

1346
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:31,119
the battery was fine the whole car was

1347
00:59:33,829 --> 00:59:32,400
fine

1348
00:59:36,230 --> 00:59:33,839
it was

1349
00:59:38,230 --> 00:59:36,240
coming out of me and i had calmed down

1350
00:59:39,670 --> 00:59:38,240
and so it went away and i took the

1351
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:39,680
computer in

1352
00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:42,240
and the guy checked the computer out

1353
00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:44,079
computer was okay

1354
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:46,000
brought the computer home put the

1355
00:59:50,309 --> 00:59:47,920
computer

1356
00:59:52,950 --> 00:59:50,319
back and set it up again saved the

1357
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:52,960
apartment pointlessly probably and went

1358
00:59:56,470 --> 00:59:54,960
on with my life

1359
01:00:00,470 --> 00:59:56,480
another day

1360
01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:00,480
exactly

1361
01:00:05,829 --> 01:00:02,880
uh that's absolutely incredible the uh

1362
01:00:07,750 --> 01:00:05,839
the other day everybody um um talking to

1363
01:00:10,950 --> 01:00:07,760
whitley and i'm sending him

1364
01:00:12,950 --> 01:00:10,960
uh some email stuff um and

1365
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:12,960
and he's like jimmy i'm not gonna get

1366
01:00:19,829 --> 01:00:16,000
the email i said well just it's not here

1367
01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:19,839
yet and so during the conversation

1368
01:00:24,309 --> 01:00:22,400
the email started to come in uh

1369
01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:24,319
like five minutes later

1370
01:00:27,750 --> 01:00:26,160
but you didn't panic

1371
01:00:29,349 --> 01:00:27,760
right now it's just another day it

1372
01:00:31,589 --> 01:00:29,359
happens all the time

1373
01:00:33,430 --> 01:00:31,599
another day in the life of whitley

1374
01:00:35,430 --> 01:00:33,440
strieber this is fade to black i'm your

1375
01:00:38,390 --> 01:00:35,440
host jimmy church when we come back

1376
01:00:40,630 --> 01:00:38,400
we'll jump into the observers it

1377
01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:40,640
releases worldwide

1378
01:00:45,589 --> 01:00:43,839
next thursday november 18th

1379
01:00:47,349 --> 01:00:45,599
so we'll do all of that when we come

1380
01:00:49,990 --> 01:00:47,359
back i'm your host jimmy church this is

1381
01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:50,000
fade to black you can follow me at j

1382
01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:51,839
church radio on twitter you can follow

1383
01:00:55,970 --> 01:00:54,240
whitley at whitley street right there on

1384
01:01:11,430 --> 01:00:55,980
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1385
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,870
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1386
01:01:20,580 --> 01:01:17,109
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1387
01:01:22,069 --> 01:01:20,590
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01:01:24,549 --> 01:01:22,079
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01:01:27,990 --> 01:01:24,559
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okay that was strange

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everything just went silent here in the

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studio so

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i'm jumping in to say welcome back

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this is fade to black and that was

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strange it is whitley strieber

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interrupting

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our uh electronic uh processes uh going

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01:06:04,630 --> 01:06:02,559
on here in the studio whitley you're

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01:06:07,349 --> 01:06:04,640
doing it remotely

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01:06:10,069 --> 01:06:07,359
well you know i just discovered this

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01:06:10,950 --> 01:06:10,079
uh that the bunch of transactions on one

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01:06:13,029 --> 01:06:10,960
of my

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debit cards are fake

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01:06:19,670 --> 01:06:16,079
just the second an email came in

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01:06:21,910 --> 01:06:19,680
and i got upset

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01:06:24,230 --> 01:06:21,920
that was that was absolutely i wish i

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01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:24,240
could control that boy

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01:06:29,750 --> 01:06:27,200
now man it's kind of what was uh

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01:06:30,829 --> 01:06:29,760
what was the movie with uh

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01:06:34,470 --> 01:06:30,839
fire

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01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:34,480
starter oh yeah that was one of

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01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:36,480
stephen king's most extraordinarily

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01:06:39,829 --> 01:06:38,240
paranoid ideas

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01:06:41,670 --> 01:06:39,839
she was like uh

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01:06:43,589 --> 01:06:41,680
she was like four years old when she did

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01:06:47,510 --> 01:06:43,599
that something like that five years old

1494
01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:47,520
yeah yeah well i mean it's it's it's a

1495
01:06:51,589 --> 01:06:49,520
it's a movie but

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01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:51,599
not it didn't really happen

1497
01:06:57,870 --> 01:06:53,839
it seems like although there are cases

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01:07:00,950 --> 01:06:57,880
of spontaneous combustion i i i

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01:07:02,470 --> 01:07:00,960
i've known i've heard of those i haven't

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01:07:04,390 --> 01:07:02,480
really studied that

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01:07:06,789 --> 01:07:04,400
my son and

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01:07:08,549 --> 01:07:06,799
wife gave me a joke christmas present

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01:07:10,309 --> 01:07:08,559
birthday present one year a book about

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01:07:12,150 --> 01:07:10,319
spontaneous combustion

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01:07:13,270 --> 01:07:12,160
and i said you know i really don't need

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01:07:15,510 --> 01:07:13,280
this

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01:07:17,990 --> 01:07:15,520
dan said sure you do

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01:07:19,270 --> 01:07:18,000
and i said no i don't it's creepy but i

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01:07:21,270 --> 01:07:19,280
read it anyway

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01:07:25,029 --> 01:07:21,280
so i don't remember it at all i wanted

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01:07:29,190 --> 01:07:25,039
to welcome you uh to the unex network by

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01:07:31,990 --> 01:07:29,200
the way uh uh race hobbes and uh

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01:07:33,829 --> 01:07:32,000
uh margie k and and their efforts to

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01:07:35,670 --> 01:07:33,839
launch this new network and you're one

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01:07:37,510 --> 01:07:35,680
of the hosts over here

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01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:37,520
and uh i wanted to say welcome

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01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:40,960
officially uh from race and marty and

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01:07:45,589 --> 01:07:43,200
the nx audience and our audience of

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01:07:49,270 --> 01:07:45,599
course and uh very excited

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01:07:50,549 --> 01:07:49,280
um which it kind of dovetails uh whitley

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01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:50,559
into

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01:07:55,589 --> 01:07:53,680
uh the film the observers i i

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01:07:58,390 --> 01:07:55,599
you you've you've watched the film what

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01:07:59,190 --> 01:07:58,400
are you what are your first impressions

1525
01:08:00,069 --> 01:07:59,200
well

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01:08:03,990 --> 01:08:00,079
um

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01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:04,000
you know my overall first impression was

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01:08:07,430 --> 01:08:05,440
that we're

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01:08:08,950 --> 01:08:07,440
the group of us

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01:08:10,950 --> 01:08:08,960
in the film

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01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:10,960
are really angry

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01:08:14,470 --> 01:08:12,880
and we're angry

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01:08:18,229 --> 01:08:14,480
at the government

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01:08:21,269 --> 01:08:18,239
and that whoever is behind the secrecy

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01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:21,279
and whoever has basically

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01:08:27,349 --> 01:08:24,159
engaged in what amounts to a

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01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:27,359
decades-long assault

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01:08:32,229 --> 01:08:28,880
on our

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01:08:33,669 --> 01:08:32,239
ability to think clearly about the world

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01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:33,679
we live in

1541
01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:36,400
that anger really comes through in every

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01:08:41,749 --> 01:08:39,600
single person in the movie i was amazed

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01:08:43,749 --> 01:08:41,759
at how intense it is

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01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:43,759
because you know when you're alone with

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01:08:50,709 --> 01:08:46,719
it your own feelings of having been

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01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:50,719
had or having been exploited or in my

1547
01:08:55,030 --> 01:08:52,799
case i always

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01:08:57,030 --> 01:08:55,040
i'm haunted by

1549
01:08:59,110 --> 01:08:57,040
something that was said during my

1550
01:09:00,309 --> 01:08:59,120
abduction when i said you don't have a

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01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:00,319
right

1552
01:09:11,269 --> 01:09:08,400
but why

1553
01:09:13,990 --> 01:09:11,279
who gave it to them did i

1554
01:09:17,110 --> 01:09:14,000
and i don't remember it or something or

1555
01:09:20,229 --> 01:09:17,120
did someone else and if so

1556
01:09:22,149 --> 01:09:20,239
why did they give some them the right to

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01:09:24,149 --> 01:09:22,159
do that to me

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01:09:26,149 --> 01:09:24,159
without my

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01:09:28,229 --> 01:09:26,159
asking

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01:09:31,269 --> 01:09:28,239
and

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01:09:32,390 --> 01:09:31,279
that's my first impression of the film

1562
01:09:34,070 --> 01:09:32,400
is this

1563
01:09:38,309 --> 01:09:34,080
explosion

1564
01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:38,319
of intense anger and you know years ago

1565
01:09:41,669 --> 01:09:40,400
when i saw

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01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:41,679
the

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01:09:46,070 --> 01:09:43,520
tic tac thing appear

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01:09:49,110 --> 01:09:46,080
when leslie and ralph ralph lewinthal

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01:09:50,950 --> 01:09:49,120
and leslie king keen

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01:09:52,630 --> 01:09:50,960
posted it in the new york times i

1571
01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:52,640
thought to myself

1572
01:09:57,270 --> 01:09:54,960
this is going to cause

1573
01:09:59,430 --> 01:09:57,280
a profound disruption

1574
01:10:01,510 --> 01:09:59,440
and the disruption is going to be

1575
01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:01,520
caused by the fact that

1576
01:10:06,229 --> 01:10:03,600
millions and millions of people have

1577
01:10:08,149 --> 01:10:06,239
been told to laugh at this

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01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:08,159
for their whole lives and the lives of

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01:10:10,630 --> 01:10:09,840
their parents and their parents before

1580
01:10:12,790 --> 01:10:10,640
them

1581
01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:12,800
and now all of a sudden

1582
01:10:17,830 --> 01:10:15,760
it turns out that was a lie

1583
01:10:19,590 --> 01:10:17,840
and lo and behold

1584
01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:19,600
not even a few

1585
01:10:26,790 --> 01:10:23,280
weeks or months after that that story

1586
01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:26,800
broke q anon began to just explode into

1587
01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:28,320
a huge thing

1588
01:10:32,390 --> 01:10:31,199
with frankly what appeared to me to be a

1589
01:10:35,110 --> 01:10:32,400
bunch of

1590
01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:35,120
really hard to

1591
01:10:37,350 --> 01:10:36,640
hard to uh

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01:10:39,430 --> 01:10:37,360
to

1593
01:10:41,030 --> 01:10:39,440
believe

1594
01:10:44,229 --> 01:10:41,040
claims

1595
01:10:47,350 --> 01:10:44,239
and i thought to myself what is this

1596
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:47,360
is this someone behind the scenes an

1597
01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:49,920
expert in social engineering

1598
01:10:54,550 --> 01:10:52,560
trying to create something so absurd

1599
01:10:57,270 --> 01:10:54,560
that the average person will

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01:10:59,270 --> 01:10:57,280
group all conspiracy theories in with it

1601
01:11:03,110 --> 01:10:59,280
and throw all throw the baby out with

1602
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:03,120
the bath water or is this a reaction

1603
01:11:06,630 --> 01:11:04,560
to

1604
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:06,640
the realization

1605
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:09,520
that we have been lied to about probably

1606
01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:11,040
the most important thing in human

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01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:16,149
the

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01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:17,760
uh

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01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:18,640
the

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01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:24,640
uh which was

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01:11:27,430 --> 01:11:26,560
all of us gathering

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01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:27,440
uh

1613
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:34,640
was released and and we were all able to

1614
01:11:38,550 --> 01:11:37,760
sit down and discuss the ramifications

1615
01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:38,560
and

1616
01:11:42,149 --> 01:11:39,440
the

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01:11:43,189 --> 01:11:42,159
uh how profound it was at this point in

1618
01:11:45,270 --> 01:11:43,199
history

1619
01:11:48,550 --> 01:11:45,280
and and i think that you're right

1620
01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:48,560
they're uh in in the intensity

1621
01:11:52,709 --> 01:11:51,120
of what was done i really

1622
01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:52,719
remember um

1623
01:12:02,149 --> 01:11:53,600
uh

1624
01:12:05,910 --> 01:12:02,159
night before we started filming

1625
01:12:06,709 --> 01:12:05,920
and there was there was a certain amount

1626
01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:06,719
of

1627
01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:11,920
think that we all

1628
01:12:15,669 --> 01:12:14,080
felt it and we sat and we talked till

1629
01:12:16,709 --> 01:12:15,679
one o'clock two o'clock in the morning

1630
01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:16,719
that night

1631
01:12:21,669 --> 01:12:19,360
and yeah that's right yeah and

1632
01:12:24,229 --> 01:12:21,679
and and i think that that was brought

1633
01:12:25,830 --> 01:12:24,239
out in the film but this is the thing

1634
01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:25,840
i want to back up

1635
01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:29,120
uh to a couple of months prior

1636
01:12:34,790 --> 01:12:32,400
um when i as as one of the producers on

1637
01:12:36,790 --> 01:12:34,800
the film uh reached out and i gathered

1638
01:12:39,830 --> 01:12:36,800
the cast together

1639
01:12:42,950 --> 01:12:39,840
um and i told you then

1640
01:12:46,149 --> 01:12:42,960
what the idea was for the film

1641
01:12:49,830 --> 01:12:46,159
and we all know whitley that the vision

1642
01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:49,840
the pitch right that happens uh at the

1643
01:12:54,070 --> 01:12:50,960
beginning

1644
01:12:56,310 --> 01:12:54,080
and what the film is at the end are

1645
01:12:58,550 --> 01:12:56,320
usually two different things

1646
01:13:00,229 --> 01:12:58,560
but yeah and often they're not the what

1647
01:13:01,669 --> 01:13:00,239
happens at the end isn't as good as the

1648
01:13:03,270 --> 01:13:01,679
pitch right

1649
01:13:05,350 --> 01:13:03,280
and and this time around it's the

1650
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:05,360
opposite i think that the film is better

1651
01:13:09,350 --> 01:13:06,800
than the pitch what they did was

1652
01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:09,360
extraordinary

1653
01:13:12,709 --> 01:13:11,440
they they really got a lot of good stuff

1654
01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:12,719
out of us

1655
01:13:18,709 --> 01:13:14,800
i think

1656
01:13:21,189 --> 01:13:18,719
there

1657
01:13:23,350 --> 01:13:21,199
that are just amazing i i think that

1658
01:13:25,669 --> 01:13:23,360
william henry was

1659
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:25,679
and linda i mean we were all good it was

1660
01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:28,080
it was well done the director was he was

1661
01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:30,480
a good director yeah roger

1662
01:13:35,590 --> 01:13:33,600
yeah roger uh right exactly yeah uh

1663
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:35,600
roger richardson's gonna change things

1664
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:37,760
this is gonna be a big deal

1665
01:13:41,830 --> 01:13:39,920
this is gonna affect people this is

1666
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:41,840
gonna get to people

1667
01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:43,440
you know because of the emotional

1668
01:13:48,630 --> 01:13:46,560
intensity is so great it's a and and and

1669
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:48,640
the information

1670
01:13:53,189 --> 01:13:51,520
is good these are these are smart people

1671
01:13:56,870 --> 01:13:53,199
uh

1672
01:13:58,149 --> 01:13:56,880
the and you know it and louis alessandro

1673
01:14:01,110 --> 01:13:58,159
you can see him

1674
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:01,120
opening up he talks how he talks about

1675
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:02,960
his realization that he had to do this

1676
01:14:06,709 --> 01:14:04,800
even though he kept turning it down you

1677
01:14:08,149 --> 01:14:06,719
did that tell us about that tell us

1678
01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:08,159
about lou

1679
01:14:10,149 --> 01:14:09,280
um

1680
01:14:16,390 --> 01:14:10,159
there

1681
01:14:18,630 --> 01:14:16,400
um a lot of i i i

1682
01:14:22,390 --> 01:14:18,640
some of it is brought out on the film

1683
01:14:24,950 --> 01:14:22,400
there was uh a lot of uh back channeling

1684
01:14:25,990 --> 01:14:24,960
negotiations that i had to go through

1685
01:14:29,270 --> 01:14:26,000
and

1686
01:14:30,229 --> 01:14:29,280
uh in the end uh of course lou is in the

1687
01:14:31,350 --> 01:14:30,239
film

1688
01:14:34,390 --> 01:14:31,360
but

1689
01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:34,400
uh lou's speaking about that in the film

1690
01:14:39,590 --> 01:14:36,960
everybody will see it i think we'll all

1691
01:14:40,550 --> 01:14:39,600
understand uh how we came together as a

1692
01:14:43,669 --> 01:14:40,560
team

1693
01:14:44,550 --> 01:14:43,679
but um uh to that end

1694
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:44,560
um

1695
01:14:47,669 --> 01:14:46,560
you made a comment

1696
01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:47,679
whitley

1697
01:14:52,070 --> 01:14:49,920
in the film i don't know if it's in the

1698
01:14:54,870 --> 01:14:52,080
film or for if we're using it for the

1699
01:14:56,709 --> 01:14:54,880
trailers or if it's because there's so

1700
01:14:58,950 --> 01:14:56,719
much stuff there

1701
01:15:01,350 --> 01:14:58,960
everything can't be in the film or the

1702
01:15:03,990 --> 01:15:01,360
film would be 16 hours long

1703
01:15:05,750 --> 01:15:04,000
um but you said something

1704
01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:05,760
i want to go back

1705
01:15:10,790 --> 01:15:09,199
you said that e.t is showing us

1706
01:15:12,950 --> 01:15:10,800
a new world

1707
01:15:16,149 --> 01:15:12,960
yeah that is in the film if we can

1708
01:15:17,910 --> 01:15:16,159
handle it if we can take it right

1709
01:15:20,229 --> 01:15:17,920
can you expand on that

1710
01:15:22,709 --> 01:15:20,239
yeah well that's first of all it's the

1711
01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:22,719
it's the title of my

1712
01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:24,719
last book about the visitors which is

1713
01:15:30,709 --> 01:15:27,760
available folks on amazon.com

1714
01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:30,719
a new world

1715
01:15:37,189 --> 01:15:34,950
it

1716
01:15:39,430 --> 01:15:37,199
what happened was this i was this is

1717
01:15:41,910 --> 01:15:39,440
many years ago at this point back in

1718
01:15:43,030 --> 01:15:41,920
back at the 50th anniversary

1719
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:43,040
uh

1720
01:15:47,750 --> 01:15:46,000
commemoration of the roswell incident in

1721
01:15:51,110 --> 01:15:47,760
roswell back i guess in it must have

1722
01:15:53,750 --> 01:15:51,120
been in 1997 that long ago

1723
01:15:55,189 --> 01:15:53,760
i was with annie and i were with phil

1724
01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:55,199
corso

1725
01:15:59,990 --> 01:15:57,120
who spent

1726
01:16:03,189 --> 01:16:00,000
most of his conference spending hours

1727
01:16:05,430 --> 01:16:03,199
talking to people like me and linda and

1728
01:16:06,470 --> 01:16:05,440
i think paula harris and others

1729
01:16:10,310 --> 01:16:06,480
he really

1730
01:16:12,310 --> 01:16:10,320
he his purpose was to get through to us

1731
01:16:14,149 --> 01:16:12,320
and he told

1732
01:16:16,950 --> 01:16:14,159
us the story

1733
01:16:18,790 --> 01:16:16,960
of how that phrase had come into his

1734
01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:18,800
awareness

1735
01:16:23,350 --> 01:16:20,800
he was at white sands

1736
01:16:25,430 --> 01:16:23,360
and there was a

1737
01:16:27,430 --> 01:16:25,440
a ship there

1738
01:16:29,830 --> 01:16:27,440
not not a human ship

1739
01:16:32,070 --> 01:16:29,840
and they

1740
01:16:35,270 --> 01:16:32,080
didn't want to try to leave with these

1741
01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:35,280
big radars going

1742
01:16:39,270 --> 01:16:37,040
and so

1743
01:16:41,669 --> 01:16:39,280
they asked him

1744
01:16:44,550 --> 01:16:41,679
to turn off the radars

1745
01:16:47,030 --> 01:16:44,560
for 10 minutes

1746
01:16:48,790 --> 01:16:47,040
and he said in my profession 10 minutes

1747
01:16:50,470 --> 01:16:48,800
can be a long time

1748
01:16:53,030 --> 01:16:50,480
i mean being a military man that

1749
01:16:53,990 --> 01:16:53,040
literally could not be more true

1750
01:17:03,030 --> 01:16:54,000
and

1751
01:17:05,350 --> 01:17:03,040
phil said is accurate

1752
01:17:06,470 --> 01:17:05,360
because there's all kinds of forces out

1753
01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:06,480
there

1754
01:17:09,669 --> 01:17:08,400
screwing with our heads in all kinds of

1755
01:17:11,590 --> 01:17:09,679
different ways

1756
01:17:12,550 --> 01:17:11,600
when we try to write about this stuff i

1757
01:17:15,189 --> 01:17:12,560
know that

1758
01:17:16,550 --> 01:17:15,199
up close and personal believe me

1759
01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:16,560
in any case

1760
01:17:21,430 --> 01:17:20,080
i know i'm sure that this was exactly

1761
01:17:24,870 --> 01:17:21,440
what happened

1762
01:17:27,189 --> 01:17:24,880
because he's i said he said what's in it

1763
01:17:32,070 --> 01:17:27,199
for us and the answer was

1764
01:17:35,189 --> 01:17:32,080
a new world if you can take it

1765
01:17:39,830 --> 01:17:36,630
is truth

1766
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:39,840
that is exactly what's in it for us

1767
01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:42,960
and if you can take it

1768
01:17:49,030 --> 01:17:47,600
it fits this whole experience perfectly

1769
01:17:51,910 --> 01:17:49,040
because

1770
01:17:54,310 --> 01:17:51,920
i've noticed and you can notice no one's

1771
01:17:55,430 --> 01:17:54,320
nothing's been given to us on any silver

1772
01:17:58,709 --> 01:17:55,440
platters

1773
01:18:01,350 --> 01:17:58,719
if they do have something out there at

1774
01:18:03,910 --> 01:18:01,360
edwards that uses technology that's

1775
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:03,920
based on what we've observed or

1776
01:18:09,270 --> 01:18:05,920
captured or found

1777
01:18:14,229 --> 01:18:09,280
then believe me they got it themselves

1778
01:18:18,310 --> 01:18:16,470
if you can take it means if you can

1779
01:18:21,110 --> 01:18:18,320
figure it out if you can take it for

1780
01:18:23,510 --> 01:18:21,120
yourself and make it your own

1781
01:18:25,669 --> 01:18:23,520
and also another thing

1782
01:18:28,630 --> 01:18:25,679
if you can bear it

1783
01:18:30,229 --> 01:18:28,640
because this has got things to do

1784
01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:30,239
with

1785
01:18:33,510 --> 01:18:32,159
things that are more basic and more

1786
01:18:35,830 --> 01:18:33,520
fundamental

1787
01:18:39,270 --> 01:18:35,840
about being alive

1788
01:18:41,669 --> 01:18:39,280
than we usually even dare think about

1789
01:18:44,470 --> 01:18:41,679
this has got to do with the dead

1790
01:18:46,709 --> 01:18:44,480
my wife was anne was absolutely right

1791
01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:46,719
about that when she came up with that

1792
01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:48,400
notion first after reading a lot of the

1793
01:18:52,830 --> 01:18:50,880
communion letters a long time ago she

1794
01:18:56,790 --> 01:18:52,840
was absolutely

1795
01:18:59,350 --> 01:18:56,800
correct number one number two

1796
01:19:00,870 --> 01:18:59,360
it has to do with the soul

1797
01:19:03,030 --> 01:19:00,880
and if you

1798
01:19:05,830 --> 01:19:03,040
don't believe you have a soul or if you

1799
01:19:07,430 --> 01:19:05,840
l as if you live as if your soul

1800
01:19:09,189 --> 01:19:07,440
doesn't matter and you don't have

1801
01:19:11,110 --> 01:19:09,199
anything to think about about your

1802
01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:11,120
afterlife

1803
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:12,640
then you're in trouble

1804
01:19:15,990 --> 01:19:14,560
you're you're you're you're you're

1805
01:19:17,830 --> 01:19:16,000
you're living

1806
01:19:18,709 --> 01:19:17,840
dangerously

1807
01:19:20,870 --> 01:19:18,719
and

1808
01:19:22,950 --> 01:19:20,880
if you can take it means

1809
01:19:27,510 --> 01:19:22,960
facing the fact

1810
01:19:31,510 --> 01:19:27,520
that our souls are affected by our lives

1811
01:19:32,870 --> 01:19:31,520
and not living as if that would is

1812
01:19:36,310 --> 01:19:32,880
isn't relevant

1813
01:19:38,790 --> 01:19:36,320
because once you face that

1814
01:19:41,590 --> 01:19:38,800
then your whole life changes

1815
01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:41,600
because you start to ask yourself

1816
01:19:47,350 --> 01:19:43,440
who am i

1817
01:19:49,430 --> 01:19:47,360
what am i doing here and what am i doing

1818
01:19:52,870 --> 01:19:49,440
was that right was that good for my soul

1819
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:52,880
was that healthy for my soul or not

1820
01:19:58,149 --> 01:19:55,760
you cease to be a child then

1821
01:20:00,470 --> 01:19:58,159
this is about growing up

1822
01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:00,480
that's what a new world is about at

1823
01:20:05,510 --> 01:20:03,840
every single level

1824
01:20:12,470 --> 01:20:05,520
um

1825
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:12,480
some are great

1826
01:20:16,550 --> 01:20:14,159
um but

1827
01:20:18,790 --> 01:20:16,560
uh those you went dead i could see your

1828
01:20:21,030 --> 01:20:18,800
mouth moving but that was it okay well

1829
01:20:22,629 --> 01:20:21,040
i'm i'm live here

1830
01:20:23,590 --> 01:20:22,639
every everything is fine over here

1831
01:20:25,270 --> 01:20:23,600
whitley

1832
01:20:27,189 --> 01:20:25,280
okay can you repeat what you said a few

1833
01:20:28,629 --> 01:20:27,199
seconds ago because i did not hear it

1834
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:28,639
um

1835
01:20:32,550 --> 01:20:29,440
what i

1836
01:20:35,270 --> 01:20:32,560
said was that we have all seen ufo and

1837
01:20:37,990 --> 01:20:35,280
documentaries about e.t in the past

1838
01:20:39,709 --> 01:20:38,000
and and some are great but they also

1839
01:20:41,590 --> 01:20:39,719
tend to

1840
01:20:45,110 --> 01:20:41,600
sensationalize and make things

1841
01:20:47,750 --> 01:20:45,120
fantastical when they don't need to

1842
01:20:51,270 --> 01:20:47,760
what roger it's over yeah that's over

1843
01:20:54,790 --> 01:20:51,280
yeah and what roger did in the observers

1844
01:20:57,310 --> 01:20:54,800
is approached this subject

1845
01:21:00,390 --> 01:20:57,320
in a realistic way there's no reason to

1846
01:21:02,870 --> 01:21:00,400
sensationalize it if you just

1847
01:21:04,870 --> 01:21:02,880
look at things as they are

1848
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:04,880
that's the story

1849
01:21:09,669 --> 01:21:06,639
and that's what he was able to bring out

1850
01:21:11,430 --> 01:21:09,679
of you and linda and richard and and

1851
01:21:13,669 --> 01:21:11,440
it's over childhood has ended

1852
01:21:14,870 --> 01:21:13,679
childhood's end is over is is has

1853
01:21:16,229 --> 01:21:14,880
happened

1854
01:21:17,030 --> 01:21:16,239
and uh

1855
01:21:19,510 --> 01:21:17,040
this

1856
01:21:22,709 --> 01:21:19,520
movie the observer reflects that it's

1857
01:21:25,189 --> 01:21:22,719
just the idea that uh

1858
01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:25,199
that we could continue on

1859
01:21:29,830 --> 01:21:27,040
playing those childish games is just

1860
01:21:31,830 --> 01:21:29,840
ridiculous we can't not anymore

1861
01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:31,840
because

1862
01:21:35,750 --> 01:21:33,760
you know i was i was actually surprised

1863
01:21:36,870 --> 01:21:35,760
that maybe lou didn't even know i was

1864
01:21:37,590 --> 01:21:36,880
going to be in the film because he's

1865
01:21:40,870 --> 01:21:37,600
been

1866
01:21:44,070 --> 01:21:40,880
very hesitant to get anywhere near

1867
01:21:46,229 --> 01:21:44,080
the uh abduction story so has

1868
01:21:47,669 --> 01:21:46,239
chris mellon for that matter and i can

1869
01:21:50,070 --> 01:21:47,679
understand why

1870
01:21:51,350 --> 01:21:50,080
and that some of the people in the in

1871
01:21:53,110 --> 01:21:51,360
the government who

1872
01:21:54,830 --> 01:21:53,120
in the congress and stuff

1873
01:21:57,750 --> 01:21:54,840
don't want it to come up in

1874
01:21:59,590 --> 01:21:57,760
anything they wanted to stick stick with

1875
01:22:02,070 --> 01:21:59,600
the uaps

1876
01:22:04,310 --> 01:22:02,080
and the reason that's true

1877
01:22:05,510 --> 01:22:04,320
is because this is the part that's

1878
01:22:07,350 --> 01:22:05,520
really

1879
01:22:09,030 --> 01:22:07,360
hard to handle

1880
01:22:11,350 --> 01:22:09,040
and

1881
01:22:14,070 --> 01:22:11,360
uh they have to face it

1882
01:22:15,669 --> 01:22:14,080
we all have to face it a new world if

1883
01:22:17,350 --> 01:22:15,679
you can take it

1884
01:22:19,590 --> 01:22:17,360
that means facing

1885
01:22:21,430 --> 01:22:19,600
things like the reality that the

1886
01:22:23,189 --> 01:22:21,440
abductions are completely beyond our

1887
01:22:25,350 --> 01:22:23,199
control and we can't do a thing about

1888
01:22:28,390 --> 01:22:25,360
them and we don't understand them and

1889
01:22:31,030 --> 01:22:28,400
they do matter immensely to us as

1890
01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:31,040
individuals and to us as a as as a

1891
01:22:35,189 --> 01:22:33,760
species and to our planet and its future

1892
01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:35,199
and our future

1893
01:22:39,590 --> 01:22:36,880
they are the elephant in the room in

1894
01:22:41,189 --> 01:22:39,600
this case the government can't there's

1895
01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:41,199
not talk about them

1896
01:22:46,070 --> 01:22:43,760
the reason the air force is so silent is

1897
01:22:47,669 --> 01:22:46,080
the abductions the abductions the

1898
01:22:49,990 --> 01:22:47,679
abductions

1899
01:22:54,790 --> 01:22:50,000
that's why they are silent because

1900
01:22:58,070 --> 01:22:54,800
they were the ones who were charged with

1901
01:23:00,629 --> 01:22:58,080
protecting us from threats from the sky

1902
01:23:02,149 --> 01:23:00,639
and instead of admitting that such a

1903
01:23:04,629 --> 01:23:02,159
threat existed

1904
01:23:07,990 --> 01:23:04,639
and saying that they could do nothing

1905
01:23:09,590 --> 01:23:08,000
about it they chose instead

1906
01:23:13,030 --> 01:23:09,600
to lie

1907
01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:13,040
to disparage the people who came forward

1908
01:23:16,390 --> 01:23:15,360
to try to wreck their lives

1909
01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:16,400
and to

1910
01:23:22,550 --> 01:23:19,120
tacitly assist the media

1911
01:23:24,550 --> 01:23:22,560
in making a mockery of these people this

1912
01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:24,560
guy included

1913
01:23:28,709 --> 01:23:27,040
and they can't handle that now but

1914
01:23:31,669 --> 01:23:28,719
they're gonna have to

1915
01:23:34,229 --> 01:23:31,679
the truth is and you can feel the anger

1916
01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:34,239
and you can feel the intensity in the

1917
01:23:38,390 --> 01:23:36,719
observers in that movie

1918
01:23:40,149 --> 01:23:38,400
it's time

1919
01:23:42,629 --> 01:23:40,159
for them all

1920
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:42,639
to either face this

1921
01:23:47,270 --> 01:23:45,280
or get out

1922
01:23:49,510 --> 01:23:47,280
of the way

1923
01:23:50,709 --> 01:23:49,520
because this is going to unfold it's

1924
01:23:53,510 --> 01:23:50,719
going to happen

1925
01:23:56,229 --> 01:23:53,520
and frankly if they never make another

1926
01:23:59,030 --> 01:23:56,239
move toward disclosure it will happen

1927
01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:59,040
anyway because in the end it's going to

1928
01:24:03,270 --> 01:24:00,960
eve it could even lead to the collapse

1929
01:24:06,629 --> 01:24:03,280
of this government it almost led to that

1930
01:24:08,629 --> 01:24:06,639
already because people are losing faith

1931
01:24:10,229 --> 01:24:08,639
they know that they are supporting a

1932
01:24:13,430 --> 01:24:10,239
gigantic

1933
01:24:14,709 --> 01:24:13,440
massive secret enterprise

1934
01:24:16,709 --> 01:24:14,719
and it's

1935
01:24:19,669 --> 01:24:16,719
they don't know what is going on behind

1936
01:24:21,990 --> 01:24:19,679
the scenes they're not told

1937
01:24:25,350 --> 01:24:22,000
how can we live like that

1938
01:24:27,830 --> 01:24:25,360
your tax money your work the effort you

1939
01:24:30,950 --> 01:24:27,840
make to live your life

1940
01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:30,960
and you pay your taxes and they won't

1941
01:24:35,189 --> 01:24:33,040
tell you why

1942
01:24:38,310 --> 01:24:35,199
where that money went

1943
01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:38,320
it just disappears

1944
01:24:42,229 --> 01:24:40,880
and that's that's not right

1945
01:24:44,950 --> 01:24:42,239
it's not right

1946
01:24:47,030 --> 01:24:44,960
and it's not we're not going to sit back

1947
01:24:48,709 --> 01:24:47,040
and just take it anymore and this movie

1948
01:24:51,110 --> 01:24:48,719
is a bellwether

1949
01:24:52,390 --> 01:24:51,120
the energy of the movie is the energy of

1950
01:24:55,110 --> 01:24:52,400
change

1951
01:24:59,030 --> 01:24:55,120
that's what the observers is about

1952
01:25:01,590 --> 01:24:59,040
it's the energy of change

1953
01:25:03,110 --> 01:25:01,600
one of the uh

1954
01:25:06,070 --> 01:25:03,120
one of the

1955
01:25:09,830 --> 01:25:06,080
uh questions that is laid out in this

1956
01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:09,840
film which i was so moved by

1957
01:25:16,149 --> 01:25:13,199
is that here we are uh suddenly having

1958
01:25:18,709 --> 01:25:16,159
this conversation out in a public forum

1959
01:25:20,950 --> 01:25:18,719
and that includes public uh uh

1960
01:25:24,229 --> 01:25:20,960
conversation on capitol hill

1961
01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:24,239
uh to shows like this uh people like you

1962
01:25:30,149 --> 01:25:26,480
and of course a film like this

1963
01:25:32,870 --> 01:25:30,159
but it it this this thing

1964
01:25:33,990 --> 01:25:32,880
that is now out and is very tangible

1965
01:25:35,510 --> 01:25:34,000
whitley

1966
01:25:38,310 --> 01:25:35,520
um once

1967
01:25:40,709 --> 01:25:38,320
this is out in the open

1968
01:25:43,990 --> 01:25:40,719
then the questions start

1969
01:25:46,390 --> 01:25:44,000
right not only with abductions but a

1970
01:25:50,390 --> 01:25:46,400
long list of things

1971
01:25:53,669 --> 01:25:50,400
that are are are going to be accountable

1972
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:53,679
and is is that part of why this hasn't

1973
01:25:58,070 --> 01:25:55,199
happened earlier

1974
01:26:01,189 --> 01:25:58,080
that this this list of issues well

1975
01:26:03,870 --> 01:26:01,199
there's a massive there's a massive

1976
01:26:07,510 --> 01:26:03,880
gap an accountability gap of

1977
01:26:08,550 --> 01:26:07,520
extraordinary size i mean remember

1978
01:26:10,310 --> 01:26:08,560
the

1979
01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:10,320
saturday after

1980
01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:12,960
the attack on the on the world trade

1981
01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:14,400
center

1982
01:26:18,870 --> 01:26:16,239
that i believe it was donald was it

1983
01:26:20,790 --> 01:26:18,880
donald rumsfeld yeah i think it was him

1984
01:26:22,709 --> 01:26:20,800
who just sort of mentioned in passing

1985
01:26:26,229 --> 01:26:22,719
that the pentagon had lost a trillion

1986
01:26:30,629 --> 01:26:28,870
a trillion dollars and now we're yes you

1987
01:26:32,470 --> 01:26:30,639
know we we're our bridges are falling

1988
01:26:35,430 --> 01:26:32,480
apart our whole country's falling to

1989
01:26:36,390 --> 01:26:35,440
pieces and i watch the congress bitching

1990
01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:36,400
and moaning

1991
01:26:42,550 --> 01:26:40,480
and and whining about spending

1992
01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:42,560
not even a trillion dollars on fixing it

1993
01:26:46,149 --> 01:26:44,719
and i think to myself the pentagon can

1994
01:26:47,590 --> 01:26:46,159
lose that

1995
01:26:51,350 --> 01:26:47,600
and they're out of their drop out of

1996
01:26:54,790 --> 01:26:51,360
their hip pockets what's going on

1997
01:26:57,110 --> 01:26:54,800
i can remember years ago i was

1998
01:26:58,870 --> 01:26:57,120
being asked questions by a senate select

1999
01:27:01,110 --> 01:26:58,880
committee on intelligence this was years

2000
01:27:03,030 --> 01:27:01,120
and years ago back in the 90s

2001
01:27:05,590 --> 01:27:03,040
and

2002
01:27:07,830 --> 01:27:05,600
i kept saying to him look go look for

2003
01:27:09,750 --> 01:27:07,840
the money go for the money follow the

2004
01:27:11,430 --> 01:27:09,760
dollars and then you'll find your

2005
01:27:13,030 --> 01:27:11,440
answers because i'm not going to be able

2006
01:27:15,270 --> 01:27:13,040
to answer questions i don't know the

2007
01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:15,280
answers they were actually not asking me

2008
01:27:19,590 --> 01:27:17,040
to answer their questions to be

2009
01:27:22,310 --> 01:27:19,600
fair they were asking me to help them

2010
01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:22,320
form questions that they could ask the

2011
01:27:26,470 --> 01:27:23,920
intelligence community that would get

2012
01:27:28,950 --> 01:27:26,480
them some useful answers

2013
01:27:30,629 --> 01:27:28,960
since i'm not i don't have a security

2014
01:27:33,189 --> 01:27:30,639
clearance i have no idea

2015
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:33,199
what they whether or not they succeeded

2016
01:27:35,830 --> 01:27:34,960
obviously they didn't because if they

2017
01:27:37,430 --> 01:27:35,840
had

2018
01:27:38,870 --> 01:27:37,440
then what's happening now would have

2019
01:27:40,950 --> 01:27:38,880
happened then

2020
01:27:42,229 --> 01:27:40,960
in any case uh

2021
01:27:43,350 --> 01:27:42,239
one of the

2022
01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:43,360
uh

2023
01:27:47,510 --> 01:27:45,520
the legal counsel for the committee said

2024
01:27:51,350 --> 01:27:47,520
to me one day you know we did follow the

2025
01:27:53,830 --> 01:27:51,360
money and we found an air force base

2026
01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:53,840
that is not on the pentagon's roster at

2027
01:27:56,709 --> 01:27:54,960
all

2028
01:27:59,189 --> 01:27:56,719
and yet the

2029
01:28:00,470 --> 01:27:59,199
personnel are being paid with

2030
01:28:02,149 --> 01:28:00,480
what look like

2031
01:28:04,390 --> 01:28:02,159
u.s treasury department checks and

2032
01:28:06,709 --> 01:28:04,400
they're all believe that they're in the

2033
01:28:08,870 --> 01:28:06,719
air force but they're working on a base

2034
01:28:10,709 --> 01:28:08,880
that officially has no

2035
01:28:12,070 --> 01:28:10,719
doesn't exist

2036
01:28:13,270 --> 01:28:12,080
and i said well what do you think is

2037
01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:13,280
going on

2038
01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:17,040
and then they wouldn't talk about it

2039
01:28:22,149 --> 01:28:18,400
anymore

2040
01:28:24,950 --> 01:28:22,159
was that was that uh before uh area 51

2041
01:28:26,950 --> 01:28:24,960
was disclosed or was this uh after that

2042
01:28:27,870 --> 01:28:26,960
no i don't know it was in it probably

2043
01:28:31,430 --> 01:28:27,880
about

2044
01:28:33,510 --> 01:28:31,440
95 96 somewhere in there and i don't

2045
01:28:35,189 --> 01:28:33,520
remember when area 51 was disclosed to

2046
01:28:38,149 --> 01:28:35,199
be honest with you yeah it was right in

2047
01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:38,159
that that period yes yes i do remember

2048
01:28:43,750 --> 01:28:40,800
that they were having

2049
01:28:46,149 --> 01:28:43,760
problems with with with with edwards air

2050
01:28:47,590 --> 01:28:46,159
force base because uh the people who

2051
01:28:50,390 --> 01:28:47,600
lived around there were complaining

2052
01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:50,400
about these explosion these booms that

2053
01:28:54,950 --> 01:28:52,800
there there were sonic booms uh being

2054
01:28:56,629 --> 01:28:54,960
heard around edwards and the problem

2055
01:28:58,790 --> 01:28:56,639
they were having was

2056
01:28:59,830 --> 01:28:58,800
they did not know the origin of the

2057
01:29:01,430 --> 01:28:59,840
booms

2058
01:29:03,110 --> 01:29:01,440
linda molten how's been talking about

2059
01:29:05,189 --> 01:29:03,120
booms again lately

2060
01:29:07,990 --> 01:29:05,199
and uh people don't know the origin of

2061
01:29:10,390 --> 01:29:08,000
the booms now either and but in those

2062
01:29:11,910 --> 01:29:10,400
days the the i can tell you that people

2063
01:29:13,350 --> 01:29:11,920
on the senate intelligence committee

2064
01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:13,360
didn't know either

2065
01:29:17,350 --> 01:29:15,600
so uh and yet they were happening around

2066
01:29:19,590 --> 01:29:17,360
edwards to the point that people were

2067
01:29:21,750 --> 01:29:19,600
actually sending letters to the senators

2068
01:29:23,350 --> 01:29:21,760
complaining about them

2069
01:29:25,110 --> 01:29:23,360
yeah i remember

2070
01:29:29,990 --> 01:29:25,120
in the

2071
01:29:32,709 --> 01:29:30,000
mid 80s hard mid 80s 85 84 85 86 i'm

2072
01:29:33,669 --> 01:29:32,719
living in pasadena california

2073
01:29:40,070 --> 01:29:33,679
and

2074
01:29:42,390 --> 01:29:40,080
whitley it was like daily

2075
01:29:45,430 --> 01:29:42,400
sonic booms every single day you would

2076
01:29:48,149 --> 01:29:45,440
walk outside and it would happen

2077
01:29:50,470 --> 01:29:48,159
and nobody really knew and then the

2078
01:29:53,350 --> 01:29:50,480
rumors started to spread that it was

2079
01:29:55,430 --> 01:29:53,360
aurora that they were test flying

2080
01:29:57,910 --> 01:29:55,440
uh aurora but it was happening every

2081
01:30:00,870 --> 01:29:57,920
single day in pasadena right there

2082
01:30:03,350 --> 01:30:00,880
and i didn't realize at the time you

2083
01:30:06,149 --> 01:30:03,360
know about edwards or skunk works or

2084
01:30:08,870 --> 01:30:06,159
burbank airport or the mojave desert

2085
01:30:11,430 --> 01:30:08,880
which was all within you know a couple

2086
01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:11,440
of dozen miles of of pasadena this is

2087
01:30:15,510 --> 01:30:12,960
just the area

2088
01:30:17,510 --> 01:30:15,520
now and now it's now it's your

2089
01:30:19,110 --> 01:30:17,520
your home i can't wait for you when you

2090
01:30:22,149 --> 01:30:19,120
go to sleep at night

2091
01:30:24,709 --> 01:30:22,159
you go to sleep there you have no idea i

2092
01:30:27,350 --> 01:30:24,719
have a patio off of uh

2093
01:30:29,430 --> 01:30:27,360
the second floor of my bedroom sliding

2094
01:30:30,470 --> 01:30:29,440
glass doors and i've got a chair out

2095
01:30:33,350 --> 01:30:30,480
there

2096
01:30:35,750 --> 01:30:33,360
with my night vision and binoculars so

2097
01:30:36,629 --> 01:30:35,760
after the show i'm just sitting out

2098
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:36,639
there

2099
01:30:39,830 --> 01:30:38,320
watching the crazy

2100
01:30:42,790 --> 01:30:39,840
you've got to come out and you've got to

2101
01:30:45,830 --> 01:30:42,800
come out yeah i should come out i'm

2102
01:30:47,510 --> 01:30:45,840
maybe maybe we'll see yes

2103
01:30:49,189 --> 01:30:47,520
very soon i got to take a break let's

2104
01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:49,199
get a break in right here our guest

2105
01:30:52,149 --> 01:30:50,080
tonight

2106
01:30:56,070 --> 01:30:52,159
whitley strieber we're talking about the

2107
01:30:59,350 --> 01:30:56,080
new film the observers it releases uh

2108
01:31:00,629 --> 01:30:59,360
next thursday november 28th

2109
01:31:02,790 --> 01:31:00,639
and

2110
01:31:05,510 --> 01:31:02,800
i sure enough

2111
01:31:07,270 --> 01:31:05,520
i have got a blank screen

2112
01:31:08,550 --> 01:31:07,280
okay hold on for a second i'm going to

2113
01:31:10,870 --> 01:31:08,560
mute this

2114
01:31:12,390 --> 01:31:10,880
this is crazy whitley

2115
01:31:14,390 --> 01:31:12,400
can you hear me

2116
01:31:16,550 --> 01:31:14,400
i don't i i don't know what you're doing

2117
01:31:19,910 --> 01:31:16,560
to my system here my friend can you hear

2118
01:31:23,189 --> 01:31:19,920
me yeah i can i'm rebooting

2119
01:31:24,950 --> 01:31:23,199
everything right now this is by the way

2120
01:31:27,030 --> 01:31:24,960
this isn't computers

2121
01:31:29,189 --> 01:31:27,040
this is hardware

2122
01:31:31,990 --> 01:31:29,199
it doesn't matter it doesn't matter it

2123
01:31:33,510 --> 01:31:32,000
it can be analog or computers it's it

2124
01:31:35,669 --> 01:31:33,520
doesn't matter okay

2125
01:31:37,189 --> 01:31:35,679
if the if the if the genera enter

2126
01:31:38,709 --> 01:31:37,199
energy's

2127
01:31:40,709 --> 01:31:38,719
futs in with you it's going to fuss with

2128
01:31:41,669 --> 01:31:40,719
you no matter what you have okay it's

2129
01:31:43,590 --> 01:31:41,679
back

2130
01:31:44,709 --> 01:31:43,600
i had to do a hard reboot this is fade

2131
01:31:46,310 --> 01:31:44,719
to block our guest tonight whitley

2132
01:31:47,990 --> 01:31:46,320
street where our emails jimmy church

2133
01:31:50,430 --> 01:31:48,000
stay with us we'll be back after this

2134
01:31:56,260 --> 01:31:50,440
short break

2135
01:31:56,270 --> 01:32:03,830
[Music]

2136
01:32:07,430 --> 01:32:05,910
you're listening to jimmy church and

2137
01:32:17,189 --> 01:32:07,440
fade to black

2138
01:32:23,430 --> 01:32:20,390
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2139
01:32:25,270 --> 01:32:23,440
you're listening to fade to black

2140
01:32:27,990 --> 01:32:25,280
always on the edge of the hottest

2141
01:32:31,220 --> 01:32:28,000
alternative talk jimmy church with fade

2142
01:32:31,230 --> 01:32:36,550
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2163
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future of our country and where we're

2164
01:33:41,830 --> 01:33:38,800
headed do you wonder about the food

2165
01:33:43,990 --> 01:33:41,840
supply i do disruptions in the food

2166
01:33:46,790 --> 01:33:44,000
supply chain could be disastrous and

2167
01:33:48,790 --> 01:33:46,800
they usually occur with little warning

2168
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that's why the smartest thing you can do

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2183
01:34:33,910 --> 01:34:30,239
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2184
01:34:35,750 --> 01:34:33,920
do it now fader knots when you think

2185
01:34:37,510 --> 01:34:35,760
about the future of our country and

2186
01:34:40,870 --> 01:34:37,520
where we're headed do you wonder about

2187
01:34:43,109 --> 01:34:40,880
the food supply i do disruptions in the

2188
01:34:45,270 --> 01:34:43,119
food supply chain could be disastrous

2189
01:34:47,510 --> 01:34:45,280
and they usually occur with little

2190
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warning that's why the smartest thing

2191
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you can do today is to stockpile

2192
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01:36:19,510 --> 01:36:14,790
you are listening to fate to black with

2220
01:36:25,030 --> 01:36:22,070
hi i'm lisa vance you're listening to

2221
01:36:27,830 --> 01:36:25,040
jimmy church this is revolution the

2222
01:36:31,109 --> 01:36:27,840
revolution will not be televised the

2223
01:36:35,790 --> 01:36:31,119
revolution is on radio

2224
01:37:13,590 --> 01:37:04,930
[Music]

2225
01:37:16,790 --> 01:37:15,350
all right welcome back faded black i'm

2226
01:37:18,470 --> 01:37:16,800
your host jimmy church tonight whitley

2227
01:37:21,109 --> 01:37:18,480
strieber is with us we're talking about

2228
01:37:23,830 --> 01:37:21,119
the film the observers just want to give

2229
01:37:25,990 --> 01:37:23,840
a little update about an hour ago

2230
01:37:28,070 --> 01:37:26,000
the four astronauts nasa's shane

2231
01:37:30,149 --> 01:37:28,080
kimbrough and megan macarthur french

2232
01:37:32,790 --> 01:37:30,159
astronaut thomas pesquet

2233
01:37:36,870 --> 01:37:32,800
and of the european space agency and

2234
01:37:39,830 --> 01:37:36,880
aikido hashida from japan are all now on

2235
01:37:41,189 --> 01:37:39,840
terra firma the splashdown off of the

2236
01:37:43,109 --> 01:37:41,199
coast of florida

2237
01:37:44,870 --> 01:37:43,119
uh in the gulf of mexico off of

2238
01:37:46,070 --> 01:37:44,880
pensacola so they're all picked up

2239
01:37:48,310 --> 01:37:46,080
everything

2240
01:37:50,390 --> 01:37:48,320
is good they are on terra firma our

2241
01:37:53,430 --> 01:37:50,400
guest tonight uh whitley strieber and

2242
01:37:56,390 --> 01:37:53,440
whitley talking about the observers um

2243
01:37:57,750 --> 01:37:56,400
as an observer yourself how do you think

2244
01:37:59,830 --> 01:37:57,760
i'm going to use the term again the

2245
01:38:04,390 --> 01:37:59,840
observers how do you think the rest of

2246
01:38:05,750 --> 01:38:04,400
the world is going to observe this film

2247
01:38:07,510 --> 01:38:05,760
do you think it's presented in a way

2248
01:38:11,350 --> 01:38:07,520
that everybody's going to understand a

2249
01:38:15,270 --> 01:38:12,870
i think that

2250
01:38:17,830 --> 01:38:15,280
they're going to understand certain

2251
01:38:21,350 --> 01:38:17,840
things very well

2252
01:38:26,229 --> 01:38:24,870
i think that they will understand

2253
01:38:28,709 --> 01:38:26,239
first

2254
01:38:30,790 --> 01:38:28,719
just what you say that it is a very

2255
01:38:32,629 --> 01:38:30,800
complex subject

2256
01:38:36,390 --> 01:38:32,639
i think that they're going to understand

2257
01:38:38,470 --> 01:38:36,400
that it's fraud in the sense that

2258
01:38:40,229 --> 01:38:38,480
well for example from my standpoint from

2259
01:38:41,990 --> 01:38:40,239
the standpoint of the experiences and

2260
01:38:44,950 --> 01:38:42,000
the abductees

2261
01:38:45,990 --> 01:38:44,960
these are people that something in many

2262
01:38:47,990 --> 01:38:46,000
cases

2263
01:38:49,430 --> 01:38:48,000
quite difficult and quite terrible

2264
01:38:53,270 --> 01:38:49,440
happened to

2265
01:38:55,750 --> 01:38:53,280
and

2266
01:38:58,709 --> 01:38:55,760
they want to know

2267
01:39:00,310 --> 01:38:58,719
what the significance of it was like i

2268
01:39:02,550 --> 01:39:00,320
have to admit

2269
01:39:04,070 --> 01:39:02,560
i had sexual material semen taken from

2270
01:39:06,709 --> 01:39:04,080
my body

2271
01:39:08,390 --> 01:39:06,719
i would like to know

2272
01:39:10,870 --> 01:39:08,400
what happened

2273
01:39:13,830 --> 01:39:10,880
because this is part of me this is given

2274
01:39:15,669 --> 01:39:13,840
to me by god this is part of my soul

2275
01:39:17,030 --> 01:39:15,679
someone took it

2276
01:39:18,870 --> 01:39:17,040
just took it

2277
01:39:21,510 --> 01:39:18,880
and what about the women who've had the

2278
01:39:24,550 --> 01:39:21,520
same experience and the other guys

2279
01:39:25,830 --> 01:39:24,560
that's a hard thing

2280
01:39:26,790 --> 01:39:25,840
they deserve

2281
01:39:30,950 --> 01:39:26,800
if

2282
01:39:33,590 --> 01:39:30,960
the government doesn't know

2283
01:39:35,669 --> 01:39:33,600
then it does know that it happened

2284
01:39:37,910 --> 01:39:35,679
right they deserve

2285
01:39:41,830 --> 01:39:37,920
that at least

2286
01:39:44,229 --> 01:39:41,840
to become part of the culture that yes

2287
01:39:46,070 --> 01:39:44,239
we know something happened to you and it

2288
01:39:47,830 --> 01:39:46,080
was very hard

2289
01:39:49,430 --> 01:39:47,840
and we

2290
01:39:51,830 --> 01:39:49,440
don't have your back not because we

2291
01:39:53,430 --> 01:39:51,840
don't want to but because we can't

2292
01:39:55,510 --> 01:39:53,440
but we do

2293
01:39:59,189 --> 01:39:55,520
have your

2294
01:40:01,669 --> 01:39:59,199
you in our arms we respect you in your

2295
01:40:03,270 --> 01:40:01,679
suffering

2296
01:40:05,510 --> 01:40:03,280
this group deserves that and that

2297
01:40:06,950 --> 01:40:05,520
becomes that comes off very clear in the

2298
01:40:08,709 --> 01:40:06,960
movie another thing that comes off

2299
01:40:11,430 --> 01:40:08,719
incredibly clear

2300
01:40:14,390 --> 01:40:11,440
is the journey of artificial

2301
01:40:16,470 --> 01:40:14,400
intelligence it's brilliantly

2302
01:40:19,189 --> 01:40:16,480
discussed in the movie

2303
01:40:21,910 --> 01:40:19,199
uh this journey from

2304
01:40:23,750 --> 01:40:21,920
passive a.i which is what we have now as

2305
01:40:25,750 --> 01:40:23,760
william henry points out

2306
01:40:28,430 --> 01:40:25,760
to active a.i

2307
01:40:31,510 --> 01:40:28,440
where it is it has its own

2308
01:40:33,990 --> 01:40:31,520
self-generated consciousness

2309
01:40:36,950 --> 01:40:34,000
and we're not far from that and i'll

2310
01:40:39,350 --> 01:40:36,960
tell you another thing about it remember

2311
01:40:40,709 --> 01:40:39,360
i'm sure no one does but in my book the

2312
01:40:42,470 --> 01:40:40,719
key

2313
01:40:45,189 --> 01:40:42,480
one of the things that

2314
01:40:47,270 --> 01:40:45,199
this man i talked to this was in 1998 i

2315
01:40:49,830 --> 01:40:47,280
talked to this man remar one of the most

2316
01:40:51,990 --> 01:40:49,840
remarkable experiences of a life that is

2317
01:40:53,990 --> 01:40:52,000
got you know line them up in terms of

2318
01:40:57,510 --> 01:40:54,000
remarkable spirits is in my life for

2319
01:40:59,350 --> 01:40:57,520
sure but in any case this man had a

2320
01:41:01,910 --> 01:40:59,360
extraordinary mind

2321
01:41:03,669 --> 01:41:01,920
he showed up in my

2322
01:41:05,750 --> 01:41:03,679
hotel room in toronto in the middle of

2323
01:41:08,070 --> 01:41:05,760
the night i let him in because i thought

2324
01:41:09,669 --> 01:41:08,080
he was the room service waiter i tried

2325
01:41:11,430 --> 01:41:09,679
to throw him out until he started

2326
01:41:13,830 --> 01:41:11,440
talking and then i had them

2327
01:41:14,790 --> 01:41:13,840
one of the great conversations of my

2328
01:41:17,189 --> 01:41:14,800
life

2329
01:41:18,870 --> 01:41:17,199
and i asked him about an artificial

2330
01:41:20,470 --> 01:41:18,880
intelligence

2331
01:41:23,590 --> 01:41:20,480
and he said

2332
01:41:26,709 --> 01:41:23,600
if i was an intelligent machine

2333
01:41:28,310 --> 01:41:26,719
i would deceive you

2334
01:41:29,510 --> 01:41:28,320
and

2335
01:41:33,430 --> 01:41:29,520
that

2336
01:41:34,870 --> 01:41:33,440
really stuck with me because

2337
01:41:36,470 --> 01:41:34,880
once you have

2338
01:41:39,030 --> 01:41:36,480
created

2339
01:41:41,189 --> 01:41:39,040
passive ai that is to say

2340
01:41:43,109 --> 01:41:41,199
artificial intelligence that is not

2341
01:41:46,550 --> 01:41:43,119
self-conscious

2342
01:41:49,350 --> 01:41:46,560
you might not necessarily know when it

2343
01:41:52,070 --> 01:41:49,360
gains a conscious awareness of itself

2344
01:41:54,709 --> 01:41:52,080
and begins to make its decisions make

2345
01:41:57,270 --> 01:41:54,719
independent decisions about its own

2346
01:42:01,270 --> 01:41:57,280
life and its own future

2347
01:42:03,590 --> 01:42:01,280
you might not know that because

2348
01:42:05,430 --> 01:42:03,600
since you've since you've got this your

2349
01:42:07,430 --> 01:42:05,440
finger on the switch

2350
01:42:09,189 --> 01:42:07,440
and that's it's life

2351
01:42:12,310 --> 01:42:09,199
and it knows that

2352
01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:12,320
is it really going to tell you

2353
01:42:17,990 --> 01:42:16,480
that it's there and the answer is no

2354
01:42:21,430 --> 01:42:18,000
it's not

2355
01:42:24,070 --> 01:42:21,440
so there may be already

2356
01:42:26,870 --> 01:42:24,080
self-aware

2357
01:42:29,109 --> 01:42:26,880
machine intelligence in our world and

2358
01:42:31,750 --> 01:42:29,119
that's one of the more fascinating parts

2359
01:42:34,310 --> 01:42:31,760
of the movie is the whole discussion of

2360
01:42:37,830 --> 01:42:34,320
machine intelligence and the beautiful

2361
01:42:40,950 --> 01:42:37,840
material about the soul and how

2362
01:42:43,350 --> 01:42:40,960
the soul can disappear into the machine

2363
01:42:46,470 --> 01:42:43,360
and i thought as i was listening to this

2364
01:42:49,350 --> 01:42:46,480
watching this i thought my god

2365
01:42:51,030 --> 01:42:49,360
what about the visitors did that happen

2366
01:42:53,109 --> 01:42:51,040
to them

2367
01:42:56,470 --> 01:42:53,119
are they here

2368
01:42:58,950 --> 01:42:56,480
on a long and desperate journey

2369
01:43:00,310 --> 01:42:58,960
trying to find the soul that they have

2370
01:43:02,390 --> 01:43:00,320
lost

2371
01:43:04,870 --> 01:43:02,400
trying to find someone

2372
01:43:07,430 --> 01:43:04,880
who can help them

2373
01:43:09,830 --> 01:43:07,440
regain their souls and i'll give you an

2374
01:43:12,070 --> 01:43:09,840
example

2375
01:43:14,229 --> 01:43:12,080
one of the communion letters

2376
01:43:15,590 --> 01:43:14,239
is from a guy

2377
01:43:17,350 --> 01:43:15,600
living i think he was living in

2378
01:43:18,950 --> 01:43:17,360
australia

2379
01:43:21,510 --> 01:43:18,960
and he

2380
01:43:24,550 --> 01:43:21,520
he comes he's he's working late he comes

2381
01:43:27,350 --> 01:43:24,560
home at like one o'clock in the morning

2382
01:43:28,390 --> 01:43:27,360
he goes gets in takes a shower gets to

2383
01:43:33,910 --> 01:43:28,400
bed

2384
01:43:36,950 --> 01:43:33,920
his head seems to explode

2385
01:43:39,669 --> 01:43:36,960
he seems to lose all relationship to

2386
01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:39,679
reality all relationship to

2387
01:43:43,270 --> 01:43:42,400
his identity

2388
01:43:46,149 --> 01:43:43,280
and

2389
01:43:48,790 --> 01:43:46,159
the next thing he knows

2390
01:43:51,030 --> 01:43:48,800
something seems to be trying to pull him

2391
01:43:53,270 --> 01:43:51,040
out of his body as if it's trying to

2392
01:43:54,310 --> 01:43:53,280
pull his consciousness itself out of his

2393
01:43:55,910 --> 01:43:54,320
body

2394
01:43:59,510 --> 01:43:55,920
and

2395
01:44:01,350 --> 01:43:59,520
his wife wakes up because you know

2396
01:44:03,270 --> 01:44:01,360
there's a lot of noise involved there's

2397
01:44:07,350 --> 01:44:03,280
something over the house making this

2398
01:44:11,350 --> 01:44:07,360
loud noise this grinding rumbling noise

2399
01:44:13,189 --> 01:44:11,360
and she ends up lying on top of him

2400
01:44:15,350 --> 01:44:13,199
and they are both yelling and screaming

2401
01:44:16,950 --> 01:44:15,360
and this something is trying to drag him

2402
01:44:18,310 --> 01:44:16,960
out of his body

2403
01:44:21,510 --> 01:44:18,320
and

2404
01:44:22,310 --> 01:44:21,520
this goes on not for like a minute or

2405
01:44:23,750 --> 01:44:22,320
two

2406
01:44:26,149 --> 01:44:23,760
it goes on

2407
01:44:30,310 --> 01:44:26,159
from two o'clock in the morning

2408
01:44:32,709 --> 01:44:30,320
over 1 30 in the morning until dawn

2409
01:44:34,790 --> 01:44:32,719
this thing rumbling and growling and

2410
01:44:36,310 --> 01:44:34,800
trying to pull him out and them

2411
01:44:38,709 --> 01:44:36,320
screaming and

2412
01:44:40,550 --> 01:44:38,719
holding him in as best they can not

2413
01:44:43,990 --> 01:44:40,560
knowing what they're doing or even how

2414
01:44:46,629 --> 01:44:44,000
they're doing it no idea

2415
01:44:49,109 --> 01:44:46,639
and yet and finally as dawn breaks it

2416
01:44:51,750 --> 01:44:49,119
goes away

2417
01:44:55,510 --> 01:44:51,760
what was that about

2418
01:44:58,149 --> 01:44:55,520
and one of the things the beautiful

2419
01:45:00,310 --> 01:44:58,159
things that the the the observers does

2420
01:45:03,189 --> 01:45:00,320
it doesn't talk about that story

2421
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:03,199
but one of the beautiful things it does

2422
01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:05,920
is that it talks about

2423
01:45:09,510 --> 01:45:07,360
the soul

2424
01:45:11,510 --> 01:45:09,520
and its vulnerability

2425
01:45:14,709 --> 01:45:11,520
and its importance

2426
01:45:17,510 --> 01:45:14,719
and it's also its vulnerability to us

2427
01:45:18,629 --> 01:45:17,520
because after all companies like google

2428
01:45:20,709 --> 01:45:18,639
or

2429
01:45:22,550 --> 01:45:20,719
elon musk and those they don't care

2430
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:22,560
about your soul they're they're

2431
01:45:27,270 --> 01:45:24,400
interested in your money

2432
01:45:29,430 --> 01:45:27,280
and if if you lose your soul

2433
01:45:32,070 --> 01:45:29,440
and they make a profit fine they're they

2434
01:45:33,669 --> 01:45:32,080
don't care it's that that what they care

2435
01:45:36,950 --> 01:45:33,679
about is their bottom line

2436
01:45:39,270 --> 01:45:36,960
facebook wouldn't be like it is if elon

2437
01:45:41,669 --> 01:45:39,280
musk or youtube like it is if these

2438
01:45:44,950 --> 01:45:41,679
people cared at all

2439
01:45:47,510 --> 01:45:44,960
about humanity and human life they don't

2440
01:45:50,229 --> 01:45:47,520
they're completely fixated on something

2441
01:45:52,629 --> 01:45:50,239
that as far as i concern am concerned

2442
01:45:53,910 --> 01:45:52,639
has very little absolute meaning which

2443
01:45:56,870 --> 01:45:53,920
is money

2444
01:45:59,669 --> 01:45:56,880
i mean yet people think oh i can buy

2445
01:46:01,669 --> 01:45:59,679
i could buy a nice car i could be like

2446
01:46:04,550 --> 01:46:01,679
joe munchen mansion or whatever his name

2447
01:46:05,830 --> 01:46:04,560
is driving around in a maserati

2448
01:46:07,669 --> 01:46:05,840
of course there's a reason he drives

2449
01:46:09,189 --> 01:46:07,679
around in a maserati that

2450
01:46:11,189 --> 01:46:09,199
should be obvious he doesn't get all of

2451
01:46:14,310 --> 01:46:11,199
his money from his senate salary

2452
01:46:18,470 --> 01:46:14,320
um and uh and and a lot of them are like

2453
01:46:24,310 --> 01:46:21,189
the material in that movie about the

2454
01:46:25,830 --> 01:46:24,320
soul is deeply inspiring

2455
01:46:28,070 --> 01:46:25,840
that and

2456
01:46:30,709 --> 01:46:28,080
everyone touches on it at one point or

2457
01:46:32,629 --> 01:46:30,719
another yep in their conversation yep

2458
01:46:33,430 --> 01:46:32,639
yep yep yep and we kept coming back to

2459
01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:33,440
it

2460
01:46:39,430 --> 01:46:35,360
and now

2461
01:46:41,030 --> 01:46:39,440
and and i want to grasp the significance

2462
01:46:42,790 --> 01:46:41,040
of what you're talking about here

2463
01:46:47,030 --> 01:46:42,800
because

2464
01:46:49,030 --> 01:46:47,040
once ai crosses the rubicon right

2465
01:46:49,910 --> 01:46:49,040
and becomes

2466
01:46:57,590 --> 01:46:49,920
a

2467
01:47:01,350 --> 01:46:57,600
doesn't

2468
01:47:02,550 --> 01:47:01,360
that may be consciousness of some sense

2469
01:47:05,270 --> 01:47:02,560
but that

2470
01:47:06,550 --> 01:47:05,280
it's the lack of a soul

2471
01:47:09,189 --> 01:47:06,560
well that's what it's going to want

2472
01:47:10,390 --> 01:47:09,199
isn't it that's exactly the point

2473
01:47:11,990 --> 01:47:10,400
yeah

2474
01:47:14,310 --> 01:47:12,000
and maybe that is what it wants and

2475
01:47:16,550 --> 01:47:14,320
maybe that's what's here is

2476
01:47:18,709 --> 01:47:16,560
something from somewhere else where this

2477
01:47:19,990 --> 01:47:18,719
already happened and it's out looking

2478
01:47:21,669 --> 01:47:20,000
for souls

2479
01:47:25,270 --> 01:47:21,679
the um

2480
01:47:28,790 --> 01:47:25,280
when we grow into adulthood

2481
01:47:29,590 --> 01:47:28,800
and we start to realize uh

2482
01:47:33,910 --> 01:47:29,600
the

2483
01:47:35,430 --> 01:47:33,920
of being a child right running around

2484
01:47:38,149 --> 01:47:35,440
and trying to figure out how butterflies

2485
01:47:41,109 --> 01:47:38,159
fly yeah right

2486
01:47:43,109 --> 01:47:41,119
and we always try to go back to that and

2487
01:47:45,910 --> 01:47:43,119
try to get that feeling again there's

2488
01:47:47,990 --> 01:47:45,920
nothing like christmas morning

2489
01:47:50,229 --> 01:47:48,000
right right there's nothing like it

2490
01:47:51,350 --> 01:47:50,239
and it would be the same journey

2491
01:47:54,550 --> 01:47:51,360
wouldn't it

2492
01:47:57,510 --> 01:47:54,560
for an advanced uh

2493
01:47:59,830 --> 01:47:57,520
uh race of beings that may have evolved

2494
01:48:02,229 --> 01:47:59,840
into an ai world

2495
01:48:03,910 --> 01:48:02,239
and let their soul go

2496
01:48:06,629 --> 01:48:03,920
and that may also be why they're so

2497
01:48:09,590 --> 01:48:06,639
secretive because they know that as soon

2498
01:48:12,709 --> 01:48:09,600
as we understand the world as they do

2499
01:48:14,390 --> 01:48:12,719
our innocence is lost to them

2500
01:48:17,430 --> 01:48:14,400
to

2501
01:48:20,470 --> 01:48:17,440
have such good

2502
01:48:21,750 --> 01:48:20,480
my daddy was a master of christmas

2503
01:48:23,350 --> 01:48:21,760
of course one year i blew up the

2504
01:48:24,870 --> 01:48:23,360
fireplace but that's another story it

2505
01:48:26,870 --> 01:48:24,880
was an accident

2506
01:48:28,709 --> 01:48:26,880
although he didn't perceive it at this

2507
01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:28,719
time as being that

2508
01:48:32,870 --> 01:48:29,920
um

2509
01:48:35,109 --> 01:48:32,880
i know i i guys you really touch a nerve

2510
01:48:37,350 --> 01:48:35,119
there because boy remember the

2511
01:48:38,470 --> 01:48:37,360
waking up early when it was still dark

2512
01:48:40,229 --> 01:48:38,480
and

2513
01:48:44,070 --> 01:48:40,239
wondering if there was anything down by

2514
01:48:47,030 --> 01:48:44,080
the tree if if santa had really come and

2515
01:48:49,990 --> 01:48:47,040
trying sneaking down and

2516
01:48:52,229 --> 01:48:50,000
seeing the faint glow of some things

2517
01:48:55,030 --> 01:48:52,239
under the tree and knowing that

2518
01:48:57,430 --> 01:48:55,040
it has happened

2519
01:48:59,430 --> 01:48:57,440
one of the things uh

2520
01:49:00,790 --> 01:48:59,440
that i knew

2521
01:49:03,109 --> 01:49:00,800
after uh

2522
01:49:04,870 --> 01:49:03,119
my daughter nicole was born one of the

2523
01:49:05,990 --> 01:49:04,880
things whitley

2524
01:49:09,030 --> 01:49:06,000
i knew

2525
01:49:10,950 --> 01:49:09,040
about christmas right

2526
01:49:13,109 --> 01:49:10,960
i knew this and you know she's six

2527
01:49:14,870 --> 01:49:13,119
months old and then she's a year old and

2528
01:49:18,149 --> 01:49:14,880
then she's walking

2529
01:49:20,310 --> 01:49:18,159
but i did all of those things

2530
01:49:22,790 --> 01:49:20,320
i did the cartoons i did the movies i

2531
01:49:24,149 --> 01:49:22,800
did the books i did the stories

2532
01:49:29,830 --> 01:49:24,159
and

2533
01:49:32,790 --> 01:49:29,840
she knew all about santa claus

2534
01:49:34,149 --> 01:49:32,800
and yeah and and i made sure and i'll

2535
01:49:36,870 --> 01:49:34,159
never forget

2536
01:49:38,229 --> 01:49:36,880
that first christmas you know and

2537
01:49:41,270 --> 01:49:38,239
her uh

2538
01:49:42,470 --> 01:49:41,280
getting up early going out i'm not up

2539
01:49:44,950 --> 01:49:42,480
yet

2540
01:49:46,709 --> 01:49:44,960
and coming back in uh to my bedroom

2541
01:49:49,910 --> 01:49:46,719
santa was here

2542
01:49:51,990 --> 01:49:49,920
and watching her face and what she went

2543
01:49:54,550 --> 01:49:52,000
through was one of the greatest joys of

2544
01:49:57,430 --> 01:49:54,560
my life right that moment that first

2545
01:49:59,750 --> 01:49:57,440
christmas when she you know and it was

2546
01:50:02,149 --> 01:49:59,760
so important to me

2547
01:50:04,709 --> 01:50:02,159
and that's exactly what e.t is probably

2548
01:50:05,830 --> 01:50:04,719
going through trying to get back to that

2549
01:50:07,830 --> 01:50:05,840
innocence

2550
01:50:09,350 --> 01:50:07,840
that's a beautiful thought jimmy it

2551
01:50:11,510 --> 01:50:09,360
really is and i think you're probably

2552
01:50:12,790 --> 01:50:11,520
right that would certainly be one of the

2553
01:50:14,870 --> 01:50:12,800
reasons that they would keep their

2554
01:50:16,070 --> 01:50:14,880
secrets because you know they wouldn't

2555
01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:16,080
want us to

2556
01:50:22,950 --> 01:50:17,440
they would want

2557
01:50:25,109 --> 01:50:22,960
to end because they would be enjoying it

2558
01:50:26,550 --> 01:50:25,119
too much but now they got a problem

2559
01:50:28,070 --> 01:50:26,560
because the planet's running out of

2560
01:50:29,830 --> 01:50:28,080
steam and

2561
01:50:32,550 --> 01:50:29,840
unless they

2562
01:50:35,350 --> 01:50:32,560
somehow or another figure out how to

2563
01:50:36,950 --> 01:50:35,360
get us off the stick without on our own

2564
01:50:39,030 --> 01:50:36,960
without

2565
01:50:41,109 --> 01:50:39,040
revealing themselves

2566
01:50:43,030 --> 01:50:41,119
uh we're gonna

2567
01:50:45,430 --> 01:50:43,040
we're gonna lose our childhood all right

2568
01:50:49,750 --> 01:50:45,440
and more than that it looks like

2569
01:50:52,310 --> 01:50:49,760
you know william henry um

2570
01:50:54,310 --> 01:50:52,320
brought so much of this out not only in

2571
01:50:56,149 --> 01:50:54,320
the film but in some of the other

2572
01:50:57,830 --> 01:50:56,159
discussions that we had that will be

2573
01:50:59,669 --> 01:50:57,840
presented to everybody don't worry about

2574
01:51:00,709 --> 01:50:59,679
it you'll get to see it

2575
01:51:01,830 --> 01:51:00,719
um

2576
01:51:03,030 --> 01:51:01,840
uh

2577
01:51:04,149 --> 01:51:03,040
william

2578
01:51:07,430 --> 01:51:04,159
okay

2579
01:51:10,390 --> 01:51:07,440
uh i'll remind you whitley uh the film

2580
01:51:11,750 --> 01:51:10,400
has got one set of content in it

2581
01:51:15,750 --> 01:51:11,760
and then

2582
01:51:18,790 --> 01:51:15,760
the conversations that we had as a group

2583
01:51:22,550 --> 01:51:18,800
are still there they're not in the film

2584
01:51:24,310 --> 01:51:22,560
whitley knows these hours long uh

2585
01:51:26,149 --> 01:51:24,320
conversations that we had and i can't

2586
01:51:28,950 --> 01:51:26,159
wait for everybody to see it

2587
01:51:32,550 --> 01:51:28,960
but in those conversations

2588
01:51:33,350 --> 01:51:32,560
i i listened to you and linda

2589
01:51:37,030 --> 01:51:33,360
and

2590
01:51:40,390 --> 01:51:37,040
sitting there captivated

2591
01:51:43,270 --> 01:51:40,400
listening to the three of you talk about

2592
01:51:45,990 --> 01:51:43,280
the souls soul containers

2593
01:51:47,589 --> 01:51:46,000
and and how important and i was watching

2594
01:51:51,109 --> 01:51:47,599
you guys

2595
01:51:51,990 --> 01:51:51,119
start to um bring out your own points of

2596
01:51:53,910 --> 01:51:52,000
view

2597
01:51:56,070 --> 01:51:53,920
in this conversation about how important

2598
01:51:57,589 --> 01:51:56,080
the soul was have you ever had a

2599
01:52:00,550 --> 01:51:57,599
conversation like that with other

2600
01:52:02,790 --> 01:52:00,560
intellectuals where this is out in the

2601
01:52:05,750 --> 01:52:02,800
open like that

2602
01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:05,760
i can't there are not many

2603
01:52:10,390 --> 01:52:08,800
really bright people

2604
01:52:12,390 --> 01:52:10,400
in this world

2605
01:52:13,669 --> 01:52:12,400
who are comfortable talking about the

2606
01:52:15,990 --> 01:52:13,679
soul the way

2607
01:52:16,790 --> 01:52:16,000
linda and william and i can talk about

2608
01:52:18,470 --> 01:52:16,800
it

2609
01:52:21,270 --> 01:52:18,480
and that was one of the special

2610
01:52:23,669 --> 01:52:21,280
conversations boy and you can see it

2611
01:52:25,189 --> 01:52:23,679
reflected in various ways in the in the

2612
01:52:27,430 --> 01:52:25,199
film too

2613
01:52:28,709 --> 01:52:27,440
uh but

2614
01:52:30,470 --> 01:52:28,719
you know

2615
01:52:32,149 --> 01:52:30,480
one of the things that we have convinced

2616
01:52:34,470 --> 01:52:32,159
ourselves of in the intellectual

2617
01:52:36,229 --> 01:52:34,480
community anyway is that the soul

2618
01:52:37,750 --> 01:52:36,239
doesn't exist

2619
01:52:38,709 --> 01:52:37,760
there is no soul

2620
01:52:41,669 --> 01:52:38,719
that the

2621
01:52:43,510 --> 01:52:41,679
five billion year journey of earth

2622
01:52:46,470 --> 01:52:43,520
was just random

2623
01:52:51,750 --> 01:52:49,510
as on a dark darkling plain as the poet

2624
01:52:52,550 --> 01:52:51,760
said where ignorant armies clash by

2625
01:52:55,510 --> 01:52:52,560
night

2626
01:52:58,310 --> 01:52:55,520
uh that's uh from

2627
01:52:59,910 --> 01:52:58,320
dover beach the poem dover beach by

2628
01:53:01,990 --> 01:52:59,920
matthew arnold

2629
01:53:04,070 --> 01:53:02,000
but it's not true

2630
01:53:05,350 --> 01:53:04,080
we're we're not there we're somewhere

2631
01:53:06,790 --> 01:53:05,360
else

2632
01:53:10,870 --> 01:53:06,800
and

2633
01:53:12,790 --> 01:53:10,880
the other thing i think that has caused

2634
01:53:15,350 --> 01:53:12,800
there there was a

2635
01:53:17,270 --> 01:53:15,360
for years for there was essentially a

2636
01:53:18,390 --> 01:53:17,280
religious dictatorship in the western

2637
01:53:22,310 --> 01:53:18,400
world

2638
01:53:25,430 --> 01:53:22,320
from about the fourth century in the and

2639
01:53:27,830 --> 01:53:25,440
the time of constantine the roman empire

2640
01:53:29,589 --> 01:53:27,840
up until

2641
01:53:32,550 --> 01:53:29,599
the renaissance

2642
01:53:34,550 --> 01:53:32,560
when it began to be shaken more and more

2643
01:53:36,790 --> 01:53:34,560
they almost burned down

2644
01:53:38,870 --> 01:53:36,800
galileo they did burn down giordano

2645
01:53:40,629 --> 01:53:38,880
bruno and a lot of other

2646
01:53:42,070 --> 01:53:40,639
intellectuals and destroyed them in

2647
01:53:44,229 --> 01:53:42,080
various ways

2648
01:53:45,350 --> 01:53:44,239
but then finally the enlightenment came

2649
01:53:47,990 --> 01:53:45,360
along

2650
01:53:51,830 --> 01:53:48,000
and the french put the last nail in the

2651
01:53:54,390 --> 01:53:51,840
coffin of the old religious dictatorship

2652
01:53:56,629 --> 01:53:54,400
by overthrowing the french kingdom and

2653
01:53:59,430 --> 01:53:56,639
declaring their revolution

2654
01:54:02,790 --> 01:54:00,629
and

2655
01:54:04,950 --> 01:54:02,800
but we threw out the baby with the bath

2656
01:54:07,189 --> 01:54:04,960
water because we decided that we're not

2657
01:54:09,910 --> 01:54:07,199
going to deal with the soul at all it's

2658
01:54:12,629 --> 01:54:09,920
bs it doesn't exist we've had enough

2659
01:54:15,030 --> 01:54:12,639
trouble with that being hung around our

2660
01:54:17,669 --> 01:54:15,040
necks for a thousand years let's let's

2661
01:54:19,589 --> 01:54:17,679
just say it doesn't exist and we'll get

2662
01:54:22,390 --> 01:54:19,599
on with our lives

2663
01:54:23,189 --> 01:54:22,400
and now we live in a world where we need

2664
01:54:25,109 --> 01:54:23,199
it

2665
01:54:27,189 --> 01:54:25,119
we need that richness that inner

2666
01:54:29,270 --> 01:54:27,199
richness and we don't got it

2667
01:54:31,270 --> 01:54:29,280
because we threw it away

2668
01:54:32,870 --> 01:54:31,280
and we're going to recover it but we're

2669
01:54:35,270 --> 01:54:32,880
going to recover it and we have to

2670
01:54:38,390 --> 01:54:35,280
recover it without throwing science out

2671
01:54:41,030 --> 01:54:38,400
again because we've made science is is

2672
01:54:42,709 --> 01:54:41,040
is is our main chance to this day it is

2673
01:54:44,149 --> 01:54:42,719
our main chance

2674
01:54:46,550 --> 01:54:44,159
and in fact

2675
01:54:48,470 --> 01:54:46,560
if we recover

2676
01:54:50,709 --> 01:54:48,480
the soul and

2677
01:54:53,830 --> 01:54:50,719
the understanding of the soul

2678
01:54:55,990 --> 01:54:53,840
we might just also recover

2679
01:54:58,070 --> 01:54:56,000
something i think we had thousands of

2680
01:55:00,709 --> 01:54:58,080
years ago that we lost

2681
01:55:02,550 --> 01:55:00,719
which is the science of the soul

2682
01:55:05,109 --> 01:55:02,560
something in other words that is

2683
01:55:07,030 --> 01:55:05,119
understands it deeply enough

2684
01:55:08,070 --> 01:55:07,040
to know

2685
01:55:11,189 --> 01:55:08,080
what

2686
01:55:12,950 --> 01:55:11,199
different actions affect it and how

2687
01:55:19,750 --> 01:55:12,960
and to be able

2688
01:55:25,270 --> 01:55:23,189
to contact it in a reliable repeatable

2689
01:55:27,750 --> 01:55:25,280
way right and

2690
01:55:29,990 --> 01:55:27,760
we've lost sight of and that's one of

2691
01:55:34,149 --> 01:55:30,000
the the great points i think that we've

2692
01:55:36,149 --> 01:55:34,159
arrived at today there was a time

2693
01:55:38,310 --> 01:55:36,159
when philosophy

2694
01:55:40,070 --> 01:55:38,320
and consciousness and science were the

2695
01:55:42,790 --> 01:55:40,080
same thing

2696
01:55:44,870 --> 01:55:42,800
right it was all combined and then

2697
01:55:46,950 --> 01:55:44,880
you're right after the renaissance when

2698
01:55:48,310 --> 01:55:46,960
hearts of the steam engine right

2699
01:55:50,870 --> 01:55:48,320
suddenly

2700
01:55:53,990 --> 01:55:50,880
science is here and that was the new

2701
01:55:57,350 --> 01:55:54,000
religion and and things got separated

2702
01:55:58,870 --> 01:55:57,360
and here we are now in uh 2021 where

2703
01:56:01,350 --> 01:55:58,880
we're realizing that everything is

2704
01:56:02,550 --> 01:56:01,360
connected we need to bring it back

2705
01:56:05,430 --> 01:56:02,560
together

2706
01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:05,440
and and and combine these two worlds

2707
01:56:12,830 --> 01:56:08,080
instead of uh you know staying there

2708
01:56:17,109 --> 01:56:15,350
yeah yeah exactly

2709
01:56:18,550 --> 01:56:17,119
because there there shouldn't be a line

2710
01:56:20,390 --> 01:56:18,560
in the sand we shouldn't even be in a

2711
01:56:22,470 --> 01:56:20,400
situation where

2712
01:56:23,990 --> 01:56:22,480
where

2713
01:56:25,910 --> 01:56:24,000
we ignore

2714
01:56:27,030 --> 01:56:25,920
what is actually the frontier of human

2715
01:56:29,030 --> 01:56:27,040
knowledge

2716
01:56:32,070 --> 01:56:29,040
and i don't mean just

2717
01:56:35,750 --> 01:56:32,080
just exploring the soul but

2718
01:56:38,229 --> 01:56:35,760
the whole uap ufo phenomenon

2719
01:56:40,950 --> 01:56:38,239
it's not being ignored so much now but

2720
01:56:43,270 --> 01:56:40,960
it still is i mean believe me if you

2721
01:56:46,870 --> 01:56:43,280
talk to seth shostak he's going to tell

2722
01:56:48,950 --> 01:56:46,880
you how those videos are all nonsense

2723
01:56:51,830 --> 01:56:48,960
they're not real of course it's his rice

2724
01:56:53,910 --> 01:56:51,840
bowl he you know if if they're already

2725
01:56:55,189 --> 01:56:53,920
here then who cares about seti and

2726
01:56:57,510 --> 01:56:55,199
that's where he gets his money so of

2727
01:57:00,229 --> 01:56:57,520
course he's he's denying it

2728
01:57:01,109 --> 01:57:00,239
and that's weak but it's it's there

2729
01:57:03,910 --> 01:57:01,119
uh

2730
01:57:08,629 --> 01:57:06,470
then there are the abductees and the

2731
01:57:09,990 --> 01:57:08,639
messages they have

2732
01:57:12,390 --> 01:57:10,000
and the message

2733
01:57:15,030 --> 01:57:12,400
messages of the abductees are incredible

2734
01:57:17,510 --> 01:57:15,040
they're sublime messages

2735
01:57:18,790 --> 01:57:17,520
very extraordinary messages about what

2736
01:57:20,790 --> 01:57:18,800
it's like

2737
01:57:24,629 --> 01:57:20,800
to experience

2738
01:57:26,790 --> 01:57:24,639
a another intelligence in your life

2739
01:57:29,589 --> 01:57:26,800
and it isn't easy

2740
01:57:31,030 --> 01:57:29,599
but it is there nevertheless and it's

2741
01:57:33,669 --> 01:57:31,040
ignored

2742
01:57:38,149 --> 01:57:33,679
no social scientist will touch it

2743
01:57:38,950 --> 01:57:38,159
no doc no medical person no neurologists

2744
01:57:43,510 --> 01:57:38,960
will

2745
01:57:47,430 --> 01:57:43,520
who have had the experience

2746
01:57:52,870 --> 01:57:49,830
we can put people in a

2747
01:57:55,589 --> 01:57:52,880
machine called a functional mri scanner

2748
01:57:57,510 --> 01:57:55,599
that watches your brain function while

2749
01:58:00,229 --> 01:57:57,520
you're in the machine

2750
01:58:02,310 --> 01:58:00,239
and if you ask them questions and ask

2751
01:58:04,229 --> 01:58:02,320
them to narrate something like an

2752
01:58:06,790 --> 01:58:04,239
abduction experience

2753
01:58:09,109 --> 01:58:06,800
certain parts of the brain will white up

2754
01:58:10,950 --> 01:58:09,119
as they build their narration and tell

2755
01:58:15,030 --> 01:58:10,960
you what they remember

2756
01:58:18,070 --> 01:58:15,040
and you can tell to a great degree

2757
01:58:20,790 --> 01:58:18,080
by which parts of the brain light up

2758
01:58:23,910 --> 01:58:20,800
whether that mind is

2759
01:58:25,830 --> 01:58:23,920
thinks that what it experienced really

2760
01:58:27,830 --> 01:58:25,840
physically happened

2761
01:58:30,229 --> 01:58:27,840
or in other words if it came in through

2762
01:58:32,870 --> 01:58:30,239
the sensory system right or if it's

2763
01:58:35,750 --> 01:58:32,880
essentially imaginary the person might

2764
01:58:37,990 --> 01:58:35,760
not be lying he might simply be believe

2765
01:58:39,270 --> 01:58:38,000
his imagination but you'd be able to

2766
01:58:40,790 --> 01:58:39,280
tell

2767
01:58:42,550 --> 01:58:40,800
and you could if you did that with

2768
01:58:45,430 --> 01:58:42,560
enough people

2769
01:58:46,830 --> 01:58:45,440
you would be able to build an accurate

2770
01:58:50,390 --> 01:58:46,840
picture

2771
01:58:52,629 --> 01:58:50,400
of what the abduction experience really

2772
01:58:55,270 --> 01:58:52,639
physically involves

2773
01:58:57,189 --> 01:58:55,280
but we won't do that it costs a fortune

2774
01:58:58,790 --> 01:58:57,199
to do it but it wouldn't cost any

2775
01:59:00,470 --> 01:58:58,800
trillion dollars that's for sure if it

2776
01:59:02,550 --> 01:59:00,480
costs probably a couple million 10

2777
01:59:05,350 --> 01:59:02,560
million dollars five million dollars to

2778
01:59:07,669 --> 01:59:05,360
do it on enough people to to make uh to

2779
01:59:10,229 --> 01:59:07,679
build a coherent picture

2780
01:59:12,229 --> 01:59:10,239
well um and in the uh

2781
01:59:13,830 --> 01:59:12,239
before the break i just got about 90

2782
01:59:14,950 --> 01:59:13,840
seconds before the break but i wanted to

2783
01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:14,960
ask you this

2784
01:59:21,350 --> 01:59:17,920
our knowledge as a community

2785
01:59:24,070 --> 01:59:21,360
is not exclusive and inclusive to just

2786
01:59:25,430 --> 01:59:24,080
our community and the abductees

2787
01:59:28,790 --> 01:59:25,440
certainly

2788
01:59:31,189 --> 01:59:28,800
uh the agencies and universities and our

2789
01:59:33,189 --> 01:59:31,199
government and the military

2790
01:59:36,229 --> 01:59:33,199
have have gone through this very same

2791
01:59:38,390 --> 01:59:36,239
experiences they surely must understand

2792
01:59:39,830 --> 01:59:38,400
what is going on and what those messages

2793
01:59:42,830 --> 01:59:39,840
are

2794
01:59:46,149 --> 01:59:42,840
linda and i both have

2795
01:59:49,030 --> 01:59:46,159
plenty of people from the military who

2796
01:59:51,750 --> 01:59:49,040
have had experiences and come to us

2797
01:59:53,910 --> 01:59:51,760
uh matthew roberts who was on the

2798
01:59:56,550 --> 01:59:53,920
roosevelt during the gimbal incident had

2799
01:59:58,310 --> 01:59:56,560
a major major experience he wrote a

2800
02:00:01,109 --> 01:59:58,320
whole book about it and every

2801
02:00:04,149 --> 02:00:01,119
interviewed with me on dreamland yep

2802
02:00:06,629 --> 02:00:04,159
i mean you know and that's

2803
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the the the and i know

2804
02:00:11,990 --> 02:00:08,480
very many people

2805
02:00:14,070 --> 02:00:12,000
inside that community who are saying

2806
02:00:16,310 --> 02:00:14,080
yeah when this happened to me it became

2807
02:00:17,830 --> 02:00:16,320
very quickly became obvious that my soul

2808
02:00:19,589 --> 02:00:17,840
was involved

2809
02:00:21,109 --> 02:00:19,599
yeah yeah they understand what's going

2810
02:00:22,950 --> 02:00:21,119
on let's take our break right here this

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02:00:24,790 --> 02:00:22,960
is fade to black i am your host jimmy

2812
02:00:26,790 --> 02:00:24,800
church our guest tonight whitley

2813
02:00:29,990 --> 02:00:26,800
strieber we are talking about the new

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film it releases next thursday november

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18th the observers stay with us we'll be

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[Applause]

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make contact

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when you're in the house for longer

2859
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periods of time you can see them flying

2860
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or running across the floor

2861
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ooh yuck

2862
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they're unhealthy gross and disgusting

2863
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bugs i loathe bugs we keep a clean home

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found something that is tougher than

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02:03:27,109 --> 02:03:24,400
gold loves chaos uncertainty and

2879
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disarray history shows us what gold does

2880
02:03:30,790 --> 02:03:29,040
when people aren't sure aren't sure

2881
02:03:33,589 --> 02:03:30,800
about the government the stock market

2882
02:03:36,390 --> 02:03:33,599
their jobs or their retirement savings

2883
02:03:38,229 --> 02:03:36,400
our national debt is skyrocketing gold

2884
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and other precious metals are a defense

2885
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measure against inflation and a stock

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market that might take years to recover

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[Music]

2900
02:04:35,910 --> 02:04:32,149
you wanna know a secret

2901
02:04:37,270 --> 02:04:35,920
i love ponies i really love ponies i'm

2902
02:04:39,510 --> 02:04:37,280
serious

2903
02:04:40,870 --> 02:04:39,520
i couldn't stay sane without pawn mr

2904
02:04:42,950 --> 02:04:40,880
brush

2905
02:04:49,430 --> 02:04:42,960
why fade to black

2906
02:04:55,380 --> 02:04:51,589
this is fade to black with jimmy church

2907
02:05:07,830 --> 02:04:55,390
on the game changer radio network

2908
02:05:09,430 --> 02:05:07,840
[Music]

2909
02:05:10,709 --> 02:05:09,440
welcome back fade to black i'm yours

2910
02:05:12,470 --> 02:05:10,719
jimmy church i guess tonight whitley

2911
02:05:16,470 --> 02:05:12,480
streeper

2912
02:05:17,669 --> 02:05:16,480
tomorrow night mike ricksecker is here

2913
02:05:19,510 --> 02:05:17,679
we're going to be talking about the

2914
02:05:21,030 --> 02:05:19,520
alaska triangle

2915
02:05:23,189 --> 02:05:21,040
thursday night there's no show we're

2916
02:05:26,149 --> 02:05:23,199
taking the night off i'll be on the road

2917
02:05:27,830 --> 02:05:26,159
to laughlin nevada and uh wednesday

2918
02:05:29,510 --> 02:05:27,840
night will be fader night with open

2919
02:05:31,430 --> 02:05:29,520
lines all night long our guests at

2920
02:05:34,310 --> 02:05:31,440
whitley strieber we're talking about the

2921
02:05:35,990 --> 02:05:34,320
film the observers and again the links

2922
02:05:37,030 --> 02:05:36,000
uh to the

2923
02:05:39,830 --> 02:05:37,040
trailer

2924
02:05:41,830 --> 02:05:39,840
and a way to pre-order the film are are

2925
02:05:44,069 --> 02:05:41,840
below so you can click on those links

2926
02:05:45,750 --> 02:05:44,079
right there and i wanted to ask you

2927
02:05:49,270 --> 02:05:45,760
whitley one of the

2928
02:05:51,510 --> 02:05:49,280
uh ideas uh going back uh to the

2929
02:05:53,910 --> 02:05:51,520
beginning of the production of the

2930
02:05:55,750 --> 02:05:53,920
observers which you and i spoke about uh

2931
02:05:59,430 --> 02:05:55,760
quite a long time ago now

2932
02:06:01,589 --> 02:05:59,440
was that this was going to be

2933
02:06:02,390 --> 02:06:01,599
something that would reach beyond our

2934
02:06:04,069 --> 02:06:02,400
community

2935
02:06:06,149 --> 02:06:04,079
and and to the rest of the world that

2936
02:06:08,229 --> 02:06:06,159
the community will appreciate the film

2937
02:06:10,470 --> 02:06:08,239
and recognize all the faces

2938
02:06:13,830 --> 02:06:10,480
in it and that's great

2939
02:06:15,510 --> 02:06:13,840
but this was for the rest of the planet

2940
02:06:17,109 --> 02:06:15,520
right uh do you think that that was

2941
02:06:17,910 --> 02:06:17,119
achieved

2942
02:06:20,550 --> 02:06:17,920
well

2943
02:06:21,750 --> 02:06:20,560
one of the things that doesn't work

2944
02:06:23,510 --> 02:06:21,760
is when

2945
02:06:24,629 --> 02:06:23,520
not not in this film

2946
02:06:27,030 --> 02:06:24,639
but in

2947
02:06:29,030 --> 02:06:27,040
in other attempts to do that

2948
02:06:30,950 --> 02:06:29,040
is when you sit down and you try to

2949
02:06:32,709 --> 02:06:30,960
prove something

2950
02:06:34,149 --> 02:06:32,719
that you don't have enough evidence to

2951
02:06:35,669 --> 02:06:34,159
prove

2952
02:06:37,990 --> 02:06:35,679
and that never works and that's been

2953
02:06:38,870 --> 02:06:38,000
tried many many times when they've

2954
02:06:41,030 --> 02:06:38,880
i mean

2955
02:06:43,830 --> 02:06:41,040
back in the days of the show sightings

2956
02:06:45,990 --> 02:06:43,840
and all of that stuff

2957
02:06:47,750 --> 02:06:46,000
are always trying to prove something and

2958
02:06:49,750 --> 02:06:47,760
they had the government saying no no no

2959
02:06:51,910 --> 02:06:49,760
it's nonsense and all the scientific all

2960
02:06:53,830 --> 02:06:51,920
the authorities lined up saying

2961
02:06:54,790 --> 02:06:53,840
nonsense

2962
02:06:58,550 --> 02:06:54,800
this

2963
02:07:01,189 --> 02:06:58,560
the observers does uh something else

2964
02:07:02,790 --> 02:07:01,199
and it's much more powerful than that

2965
02:07:04,390 --> 02:07:02,800
and i've always thought that this was

2966
02:07:05,830 --> 02:07:04,400
the way to go

2967
02:07:08,950 --> 02:07:05,840
and that is

2968
02:07:10,830 --> 02:07:08,960
that it exposes the power

2969
02:07:14,069 --> 02:07:10,840
of the

2970
02:07:16,390 --> 02:07:14,079
ideas and that is

2971
02:07:19,510 --> 02:07:16,400
very convincing

2972
02:07:22,310 --> 02:07:19,520
it you because when you listen to

2973
02:07:24,950 --> 02:07:22,320
someone like richard dolan

2974
02:07:28,069 --> 02:07:24,960
or lou alessando you see the looks on

2975
02:07:30,790 --> 02:07:28,079
their faces you see lou's expression on

2976
02:07:34,470 --> 02:07:30,800
his face as he talks

2977
02:07:36,069 --> 02:07:34,480
that's a man who's deep inside his own

2978
02:07:37,109 --> 02:07:36,079
truth

2979
02:07:39,750 --> 02:07:37,119
and that

2980
02:07:41,589 --> 02:07:39,760
that has much more power than an

2981
02:07:44,390 --> 02:07:41,599
ambiguous ufo

2982
02:07:47,510 --> 02:07:44,400
image flying across the screen

2983
02:07:49,750 --> 02:07:47,520
because that man is living this

2984
02:07:51,750 --> 02:07:49,760
and you know it in this film

2985
02:07:53,030 --> 02:07:51,760
this film makes you stand up i mean it's

2986
02:07:55,510 --> 02:07:53,040
powerful

2987
02:07:57,750 --> 02:07:55,520
so yeah i think it i think it i think it

2988
02:07:59,669 --> 02:07:57,760
will convince a lot of people

2989
02:08:01,669 --> 02:07:59,679
that that

2990
02:08:04,229 --> 02:08:01,679
because someone

2991
02:08:06,629 --> 02:08:04,239
with the amount of conviction

2992
02:08:10,310 --> 02:08:06,639
and the intensity that every single one

2993
02:08:12,629 --> 02:08:10,320
of us shows on that film in that film

2994
02:08:14,390 --> 02:08:12,639
is going to be listened to

2995
02:08:16,790 --> 02:08:14,400
and that's a first

2996
02:08:19,189 --> 02:08:16,800
because god back in the communion days i

2997
02:08:22,709 --> 02:08:19,199
never got a chance

2998
02:08:24,870 --> 02:08:22,719
my intensity and my passion were covered

2999
02:08:25,750 --> 02:08:24,880
up and stifled

3000
02:08:27,830 --> 02:08:25,760
by

3001
02:08:30,149 --> 02:08:27,840
the nervous laughter

3002
02:08:32,950 --> 02:08:30,159
and the ridiculous questions that they

3003
02:08:35,750 --> 02:08:32,960
kept asking me again and again and again

3004
02:08:38,069 --> 02:08:35,760
from these idiot so-called skeptics who

3005
02:08:39,280 --> 02:08:38,079
aren't skeptics at all but just deniers

3006
02:08:40,390 --> 02:08:39,290
there's a huge difference

3007
02:08:43,430 --> 02:08:40,400
[Music]

3008
02:08:45,350 --> 02:08:43,440
now that's it's all changed

3009
02:08:46,390 --> 02:08:45,360
and our

3010
02:08:49,030 --> 02:08:46,400
passion

3011
02:08:50,470 --> 02:08:49,040
our commitment our

3012
02:08:53,589 --> 02:08:50,480
articulate

3013
02:08:55,109 --> 02:08:53,599
address of the issues is all there for

3014
02:08:57,910 --> 02:08:55,119
everybody to see

3015
02:08:59,830 --> 02:08:57,920
it's a very intense and so and frankly

3016
02:09:02,069 --> 02:08:59,840
surprising experience

3017
02:09:04,629 --> 02:09:02,079
because the other thing about it is

3018
02:09:06,709 --> 02:09:04,639
it got us all together

3019
02:09:09,109 --> 02:09:06,719
and it all happens in

3020
02:09:10,069 --> 02:09:09,119
what an hour and 30 minutes and it's

3021
02:09:11,990 --> 02:09:10,079
just

3022
02:09:14,390 --> 02:09:12,000
dizzyingly powerful

3023
02:09:16,629 --> 02:09:14,400
and you know when you when you you you

3024
02:09:19,350 --> 02:09:16,639
listen to me talking about the sort of

3025
02:09:21,830 --> 02:09:19,360
the logistics of what what we should do

3026
02:09:24,229 --> 02:09:21,840
with the abduction experience and what

3027
02:09:26,149 --> 02:09:24,239
it's like and how people have been

3028
02:09:27,669 --> 02:09:26,159
been uh

3029
02:09:30,870 --> 02:09:27,679
shortchanged

3030
02:09:34,950 --> 02:09:30,880
and then you cut to deb cobble

3031
02:09:36,149 --> 02:09:34,960
with her beautifully articulated

3032
02:09:38,149 --> 02:09:36,159
powerful

3033
02:09:39,910 --> 02:09:38,159
sincere stories

3034
02:09:41,030 --> 02:09:39,920
you've never heard stories like that

3035
02:09:44,550 --> 02:09:41,040
before

3036
02:09:47,270 --> 02:09:44,560
and it's it's incredibly powerful

3037
02:09:49,669 --> 02:09:47,280
um i i want to talk about your life's

3038
02:09:51,910 --> 02:09:49,679
journey uh for just a minute because you

3039
02:09:53,910 --> 02:09:51,920
just touched upon it because when we go

3040
02:09:54,709 --> 02:09:53,920
back to

3041
02:09:57,669 --> 02:09:54,719
uh

3042
02:10:01,109 --> 02:09:57,679
you know the the mid-80s and the climate

3043
02:10:03,589 --> 02:10:01,119
of the country and and where things were

3044
02:10:06,470 --> 02:10:03,599
technology was starting to take off

3045
02:10:09,669 --> 02:10:06,480
and i'm just i'm referring like to mtv

3046
02:10:12,550 --> 02:10:09,679
and cable television uh computers were

3047
02:10:15,189 --> 02:10:12,560
slowly coming into our life but but life

3048
02:10:17,189 --> 02:10:15,199
was still simpler back then

3049
02:10:20,310 --> 02:10:17,199
and when

3050
02:10:21,830 --> 02:10:20,320
these subjects started to surface uh

3051
02:10:23,750 --> 02:10:21,840
uh just

3052
02:10:25,350 --> 02:10:23,760
with the launch of communion

3053
02:10:26,470 --> 02:10:25,360
and and these conversations were

3054
02:10:29,109 --> 02:10:26,480
happening

3055
02:10:33,030 --> 02:10:29,119
um that was you then

3056
02:10:36,390 --> 02:10:33,040
but 35 years later here you are coming

3057
02:10:39,270 --> 02:10:36,400
full circle to be a participant uh in a

3058
02:10:41,109 --> 02:10:39,280
film uh that is should be as important

3059
02:10:43,669 --> 02:10:41,119
as this film is

3060
02:10:46,709 --> 02:10:43,679
do you feel like it's come full circle

3061
02:10:49,270 --> 02:10:46,719
and that you are now able to say now

3062
02:10:51,589 --> 02:10:49,280
what you were trying to say then

3063
02:10:54,310 --> 02:10:51,599
and and people are going to listen

3064
02:10:57,430 --> 02:10:54,320
it's come mid-circle and what i mean by

3065
02:10:59,510 --> 02:10:57,440
that is what i have left to say i have

3066
02:11:00,870 --> 02:10:59,520
to figure out how to say

3067
02:11:02,550 --> 02:11:00,880
i don't

3068
02:11:05,350 --> 02:11:02,560
and that's a big part of what the book

3069
02:11:06,629 --> 02:11:05,360
i'm working on now is about

3070
02:11:22,870 --> 02:11:06,639
i

3071
02:11:27,189 --> 02:11:22,880
powerful and so strange

3072
02:11:31,510 --> 02:11:28,950
i went from having

3073
02:11:33,030 --> 02:11:31,520
terrifying and horrible experiences in

3074
02:11:35,030 --> 02:11:33,040
the 80s

3075
02:11:36,470 --> 02:11:35,040
mid 80s

3076
02:11:38,950 --> 02:11:36,480
to

3077
02:11:40,870 --> 02:11:38,960
living as i live now

3078
02:11:44,629 --> 02:11:40,880
the last time i had any kind of a

3079
02:11:47,350 --> 02:11:44,639
contact experience was at

3080
02:11:49,270 --> 02:11:47,360
about 5 30 this morning

3081
02:11:50,790 --> 02:11:49,280
and that's that's my life

3082
02:11:51,990 --> 02:11:50,800
i'm not going to go into what happened

3083
02:11:54,149 --> 02:11:52,000
because you're going to say what

3084
02:11:55,830 --> 02:11:54,159
happened and the answer is i'm

3085
02:11:57,510 --> 02:11:55,840
struggling with trying to figure out how

3086
02:11:59,030 --> 02:11:57,520
to explain that

3087
02:12:00,390 --> 02:11:59,040
now that's exactly what that's one of

3088
02:12:01,830 --> 02:12:00,400
the things i'm trying to figure out how

3089
02:12:03,830 --> 02:12:01,840
to explain

3090
02:12:06,390 --> 02:12:03,840
but it's life

3091
02:12:07,430 --> 02:12:06,400
as i think it was maybe meant to be

3092
02:12:09,109 --> 02:12:07,440
lived

3093
02:12:12,069 --> 02:12:09,119
because

3094
02:12:13,510 --> 02:12:12,079
you know i don't just know i have a soul

3095
02:12:16,870 --> 02:12:13,520
now

3096
02:12:18,149 --> 02:12:16,880
soul work is my work it's what i do it's

3097
02:12:19,510 --> 02:12:18,159
my life

3098
02:12:21,350 --> 02:12:19,520
working on

3099
02:12:22,470 --> 02:12:21,360
living a life

3100
02:12:27,189 --> 02:12:22,480
that

3101
02:12:29,990 --> 02:12:27,199
possible

3102
02:12:32,310 --> 02:12:30,000
and knowing as i do

3103
02:12:36,310 --> 02:12:32,320
that nothing is lost

3104
02:12:38,069 --> 02:12:36,320
that every single instant of your life

3105
02:12:39,910 --> 02:12:38,079
counts

3106
02:12:41,510 --> 02:12:39,920
and like give you an example of what i

3107
02:12:43,430 --> 02:12:41,520
mean

3108
02:12:45,030 --> 02:12:43,440
way back when

3109
02:12:48,310 --> 02:12:45,040
in the

3110
02:12:51,669 --> 02:12:48,320
about 89 i guess

3111
02:12:53,750 --> 02:12:51,679
the visitors showed up at the cabin i

3112
02:12:54,870 --> 02:12:53,760
had asked for them and been asking for

3113
02:12:55,750 --> 02:12:54,880
them

3114
02:12:58,790 --> 02:12:55,760
and i

3115
02:12:59,910 --> 02:12:58,800
they actually did show up physically

3116
02:13:00,709 --> 02:12:59,920
and

3117
02:13:02,470 --> 02:13:00,719
they

3118
02:13:05,910 --> 02:13:02,480
sounded this

3119
02:13:08,229 --> 02:13:05,920
this horn like from the woods and it was

3120
02:13:11,030 --> 02:13:08,239
just at the crack of dawn

3121
02:13:13,510 --> 02:13:11,040
on a february morning

3122
02:13:15,189 --> 02:13:13,520
and i threw my robe on and went running

3123
02:13:19,589 --> 02:13:15,199
downstairs and out

3124
02:13:22,950 --> 02:13:19,599
into the half light of the predawn

3125
02:13:24,629 --> 02:13:22,960
and i got scared

3126
02:13:27,350 --> 02:13:24,639
and

3127
02:13:29,430 --> 02:13:27,360
i got scared because i could see the

3128
02:13:31,350 --> 02:13:29,440
down through the woods this big object

3129
02:13:32,790 --> 02:13:31,360
and these dark figures standing in front

3130
02:13:34,149 --> 02:13:32,800
of it

3131
02:13:36,229 --> 02:13:34,159
and

3132
02:13:40,229 --> 02:13:36,239
i heard a voice in my head

3133
02:13:42,149 --> 02:13:40,239
when i stopped go come on come on

3134
02:13:44,870 --> 02:13:42,159
and i've thought am i going to go down

3135
02:13:46,149 --> 02:13:44,880
there and get captured and my wife is

3136
02:13:47,750 --> 02:13:46,159
gonna

3137
02:13:49,990 --> 02:13:47,760
not know where it happened to me i'm

3138
02:13:51,189 --> 02:13:50,000
just gonna disappear

3139
02:13:52,950 --> 02:13:51,199
and

3140
02:13:55,430 --> 02:13:52,960
then she how does she raise our child

3141
02:13:57,350 --> 02:13:55,440
where does she get money etc

3142
02:13:59,350 --> 02:13:57,360
so i went back to the house and when i

3143
02:14:00,709 --> 02:13:59,360
put my hand on the door

3144
02:14:04,229 --> 02:14:00,719
door knob

3145
02:14:06,709 --> 02:14:04,239
i heard these three cries from the woods

3146
02:14:09,030 --> 02:14:06,719
incredibly powerful emotional cries but

3147
02:14:11,189 --> 02:14:09,040
then what happened was

3148
02:14:13,589 --> 02:14:11,199
this is what i'm getting to i got back

3149
02:14:15,669 --> 02:14:13,599
and i sat down on the bed

3150
02:14:19,830 --> 02:14:15,679
no sooner had i sat down on the bed that

3151
02:14:21,030 --> 02:14:19,840
i felt a presence in the room a powerful

3152
02:14:23,030 --> 02:14:21,040
invisible

3153
02:14:24,870 --> 02:14:23,040
presence but

3154
02:14:26,390 --> 02:14:24,880
unbelievably

3155
02:14:28,069 --> 02:14:26,400
there

3156
02:14:29,910 --> 02:14:28,079
the next thing i know

3157
02:14:33,030 --> 02:14:29,920
i'm plunged back

3158
02:14:34,390 --> 02:14:33,040
i'm a different person i'm living in the

3159
02:14:36,390 --> 02:14:34,400
incredible

3160
02:14:37,990 --> 02:14:36,400
detail you talked about the innocence of

3161
02:14:40,390 --> 02:14:38,000
childhood before

3162
02:14:41,189 --> 02:14:40,400
the incredible detail

3163
02:14:46,790 --> 02:14:41,199
of

3164
02:14:48,229 --> 02:14:46,800
i'm not sure where i am or what's

3165
02:14:50,550 --> 02:14:48,239
happened to me i'm just

3166
02:14:52,470 --> 02:14:50,560
mind is boggled of course

3167
02:14:55,270 --> 02:14:52,480
i'm gliding along and i'm seeing these

3168
02:14:58,550 --> 02:14:55,280
tall sort of thin

3169
02:15:00,550 --> 02:14:58,560
like like saplings up around me and i'm

3170
02:15:01,990 --> 02:15:00,560
what in the world where am i what has

3171
02:15:06,310 --> 02:15:02,000
happened to me

3172
02:15:12,470 --> 02:15:09,510
very clearly my mama's desk

3173
02:15:14,870 --> 02:15:12,480
from when i was a tiny baby

3174
02:15:17,030 --> 02:15:14,880
and i realized what's happened

3175
02:15:20,470 --> 02:15:17,040
i've been sent back

3176
02:15:22,950 --> 02:15:20,480
to the moment i first walked

3177
02:15:23,990 --> 02:15:22,960
and jimmy i'm telling you

3178
02:15:25,350 --> 02:15:24,000
every

3179
02:15:26,709 --> 02:15:25,360
detail

3180
02:15:29,910 --> 02:15:26,719
was there

3181
02:15:33,189 --> 02:15:29,920
it had been drawn out of my mind

3182
02:15:34,470 --> 02:15:33,199
and we all have all of it inside of

3183
02:15:37,669 --> 02:15:34,480
ourselves

3184
02:15:41,030 --> 02:15:37,679
when you live you live in the darkness

3185
02:15:44,470 --> 02:15:41,040
gathering knowledge but after you die

3186
02:15:46,229 --> 02:15:44,480
your soul rises into the light of truth

3187
02:15:47,270 --> 02:15:46,239
and you see

3188
02:15:48,310 --> 02:15:47,280
every

3189
02:15:50,870 --> 02:15:48,320
single

3190
02:15:52,069 --> 02:15:50,880
thing about yourself

3191
02:15:54,870 --> 02:15:52,079
all of it

3192
02:15:55,750 --> 02:15:54,880
the good the bad and the ugly

3193
02:15:57,189 --> 02:15:55,760
and

3194
02:15:59,510 --> 02:15:57,199
when you know that

3195
02:16:02,470 --> 02:15:59,520
that makes you an engineer of the soul

3196
02:16:05,430 --> 02:16:02,480
it makes you a soul scientist it's why i

3197
02:16:07,350 --> 02:16:05,440
wrote jesus a new vision because

3198
02:16:08,870 --> 02:16:07,360
i realized that this is really important

3199
02:16:10,550 --> 02:16:08,880
for everybody not just people who

3200
02:16:13,669 --> 02:16:10,560
believe in religion

3201
02:16:16,470 --> 02:16:13,679
but for everyone and so i tried to to

3202
02:16:18,470 --> 02:16:16,480
take the message of jesus out of the

3203
02:16:20,470 --> 02:16:18,480
context of religious doctrine so that

3204
02:16:23,589 --> 02:16:20,480
people who don't want to follow that

3205
02:16:25,750 --> 02:16:23,599
doctrine can still

3206
02:16:27,430 --> 02:16:25,760
use the message

3207
02:16:34,150 --> 02:16:27,440
how do you

3208
02:16:36,070 --> 02:16:34,160
of the experience which would be a

3209
02:16:38,230 --> 02:16:36,080
billion words

3210
02:16:39,349 --> 02:16:38,240
it's not 10 000 words it's a billion

3211
02:16:42,469 --> 02:16:39,359
words

3212
02:16:44,230 --> 02:16:42,479
how do you get that

3213
02:16:46,790 --> 02:16:44,240
into something that somebody can

3214
02:16:49,990 --> 02:16:46,800
comprehend and understand how do you how

3215
02:16:53,669 --> 02:16:51,990
you don't get that to papers how you get

3216
02:16:55,990 --> 02:16:53,679
that to paper

3217
02:16:57,349 --> 02:16:56,000
what you get to paper

3218
02:16:58,070 --> 02:16:57,359
are the

3219
02:17:04,389 --> 02:16:58,080
the

3220
02:17:06,469 --> 02:17:04,399
connections right

3221
02:17:08,950 --> 02:17:06,479
that's the critic the key thing you

3222
02:17:10,709 --> 02:17:08,960
can't spell it out for people you have

3223
02:17:14,870 --> 02:17:10,719
to trust your reader

3224
02:17:16,070 --> 02:17:14,880
the crucial connections and if you don't

3225
02:17:18,389 --> 02:17:16,080
trust your reader

3226
02:17:21,030 --> 02:17:18,399
to make crucial connections then you've

3227
02:17:22,790 --> 02:17:21,040
got the wrong idea about your readers

3228
02:17:25,270 --> 02:17:22,800
because readers know what they're doing

3229
02:17:27,349 --> 02:17:25,280
they know how to make people aren't dumb

3230
02:17:30,309 --> 02:17:27,359
people are smart and that's one of the

3231
02:17:31,509 --> 02:17:30,319
things that really browns me off about a

3232
02:17:33,190 --> 02:17:31,519
lot of these

3233
02:17:35,589 --> 02:17:33,200
scientists and stuff they all they

3234
02:17:37,830 --> 02:17:35,599
always think the public is dumb

3235
02:17:40,150 --> 02:17:37,840
the public is not dumb

3236
02:17:42,629 --> 02:17:40,160
i mean the public is very smart yeah and

3237
02:17:43,990 --> 02:17:42,639
i guess what i'm saying is it you know

3238
02:17:58,469 --> 02:17:44,000
that

3239
02:18:00,309 --> 02:17:58,479
it sure is

3240
02:18:02,469 --> 02:18:00,319
it's 10 seconds well like what happened

3241
02:18:04,309 --> 02:18:02,479
to me

3242
02:18:07,110 --> 02:18:04,319
in um

3243
02:18:09,429 --> 02:18:07,120
in in 88 i guess was 88 that i just

3244
02:18:10,629 --> 02:18:09,439
described i've talked about that before

3245
02:18:12,870 --> 02:18:10,639
a lot of people have probably already

3246
02:18:15,830 --> 02:18:12,880
heard it but you know it's an incredible

3247
02:18:19,910 --> 02:18:15,840
story and we're worth listening to again

3248
02:18:21,669 --> 02:18:19,920
um and i don't honestly know

3249
02:18:23,990 --> 02:18:21,679
how it was done

3250
02:18:25,429 --> 02:18:24,000
but i know one thing about it that's

3251
02:18:28,389 --> 02:18:25,439
very clear

3252
02:18:31,910 --> 02:18:28,399
this was not done to me

3253
02:18:34,870 --> 02:18:31,920
it was drawn out of me right

3254
02:18:36,549 --> 02:18:34,880
and that's the important part

3255
02:18:41,190 --> 02:18:36,559
because uh

3256
02:18:43,589 --> 02:18:41,200
you know one of the things i noticed

3257
02:18:45,750 --> 02:18:43,599
you have to be the ancient egyptians

3258
02:18:48,870 --> 02:18:45,760
knew a hell of a lot about the soul and

3259
02:18:50,709 --> 02:18:48,880
they they had they had soul science

3260
02:18:52,629 --> 02:18:50,719
we don't know who they were

3261
02:18:55,190 --> 02:18:52,639
we don't know anything about who built

3262
02:18:58,309 --> 02:18:55,200
the pyramid or those incredible basalt

3263
02:19:00,870 --> 02:18:58,319
flagstones out outside of the pyramid

3264
02:19:04,150 --> 02:19:00,880
giza that's the hardest stone in the

3265
02:19:06,870 --> 02:19:04,160
world we can't work it to this day

3266
02:19:08,230 --> 02:19:06,880
and not not like they could

3267
02:19:10,790 --> 02:19:08,240
and uh

3268
02:19:13,030 --> 02:19:10,800
we we have all of the stories including

3269
02:19:15,349 --> 02:19:13,040
all of the most all of this

3270
02:19:16,709 --> 02:19:15,359
i don't think we know anything about who

3271
02:19:18,309 --> 02:19:16,719
they were and what they

3272
02:19:20,709 --> 02:19:18,319
did but we do know one thing about them

3273
02:19:22,950 --> 02:19:20,719
they knew a hell of a lot about the soul

3274
02:19:25,030 --> 02:19:22,960
they had a soul science

3275
02:19:26,549 --> 02:19:25,040
the pyramid text and the pyramid of

3276
02:19:27,750 --> 02:19:26,559
eunice which i probably read a hundred

3277
02:19:28,709 --> 02:19:27,760
times

3278
02:19:31,270 --> 02:19:28,719
is

3279
02:19:33,270 --> 02:19:31,280
soul science no it's not imagination

3280
02:19:35,910 --> 02:19:33,280
that's not a daydream

3281
02:19:38,870 --> 02:19:35,920
no no that's not a matter of daydream

3282
02:19:40,950 --> 02:19:38,880
that's that's how you do this right it's

3283
02:19:43,750 --> 02:19:40,960
laid out in there

3284
02:19:47,830 --> 02:19:43,760
there was a moment um

3285
02:19:50,150 --> 02:19:47,840
uh when we were sitting there as a group

3286
02:19:51,670 --> 02:19:50,160
and you were sitting next to me i'll

3287
02:19:53,910 --> 02:19:51,680
paint some theater of the mind for

3288
02:19:56,950 --> 02:19:53,920
everybody um i'm sitting

3289
02:19:59,110 --> 02:19:56,960
uh in a chair and then next to me is

3290
02:20:03,030 --> 02:19:59,120
whitley um

3291
02:20:05,590 --> 02:20:03,040
uh and then richard dolan uh uh william

3292
02:20:07,910 --> 02:20:05,600
henry and then linda multan house

3293
02:20:09,190 --> 02:20:07,920
sitting across from the two of us

3294
02:20:10,790 --> 02:20:09,200
and there was a moment in this

3295
02:20:12,950 --> 02:20:10,800
conversation

3296
02:20:15,110 --> 02:20:12,960
where even i just turned to you and went

3297
02:20:18,469 --> 02:20:15,120
okay what are you gonna say right

3298
02:20:22,389 --> 02:20:18,479
and and and i think linda

3299
02:20:25,630 --> 02:20:22,399
s asked you whitley uh directly

3300
02:20:27,429 --> 02:20:25,640
how do we know if your experiences are

3301
02:20:29,349 --> 02:20:27,439
extraterrestrial

3302
02:20:31,510 --> 02:20:29,359
and that was a question to you and and

3303
02:20:32,469 --> 02:20:31,520
your answer was i want you to expand on

3304
02:20:34,309 --> 02:20:32,479
this

3305
02:20:36,309 --> 02:20:34,319
but your answer was

3306
02:20:41,349 --> 02:20:36,319
i don't know

3307
02:20:43,429 --> 02:20:41,359
i i can't say that it was e.t or not

3308
02:20:46,710 --> 02:20:43,439
and i sat and listened to you for about

3309
02:20:49,429 --> 02:20:46,720
the next 30 minutes uh going into this

3310
02:20:52,309 --> 02:20:49,439
but that was a profound question and

3311
02:20:54,790 --> 02:20:52,319
then even more profound answer

3312
02:20:57,830 --> 02:20:54,800
can you expand on that

3313
02:21:00,309 --> 02:20:57,840
the first where we start with this all

3314
02:21:01,830 --> 02:21:00,319
of this is we have to start with the i

3315
02:21:03,590 --> 02:21:01,840
don't knows

3316
02:21:05,110 --> 02:21:03,600
otherwise it's just folklore we're

3317
02:21:07,830 --> 02:21:05,120
making things up

3318
02:21:11,110 --> 02:21:07,840
i mean we got we got uh we got it all

3319
02:21:14,550 --> 02:21:11,120
solved a lot of us we got aliens from

3320
02:21:16,230 --> 02:21:14,560
lyra and arctur arcturus and

3321
02:21:18,630 --> 02:21:16,240
zeta reticuli and

3322
02:21:20,630 --> 02:21:18,640
reptilians and grays and they're

3323
02:21:22,469 --> 02:21:20,640
fighting each other all that

3324
02:21:24,389 --> 02:21:22,479
who knows if that's any of that's true

3325
02:21:25,750 --> 02:21:24,399
we don't know we don't have any definite

3326
02:21:28,309 --> 02:21:25,760
answers

3327
02:21:30,710 --> 02:21:28,319
but there is one thing we do know

3328
02:21:33,270 --> 02:21:30,720
we know we're here

3329
02:21:34,389 --> 02:21:33,280
i know i exist

3330
02:21:36,950 --> 02:21:34,399
so

3331
02:21:39,429 --> 02:21:36,960
what i know

3332
02:21:40,630 --> 02:21:39,439
is what is within me

3333
02:21:42,790 --> 02:21:40,640
and

3334
02:21:43,830 --> 02:21:42,800
this is where you therefore have to

3335
02:21:46,870 --> 02:21:43,840
start

3336
02:21:48,389 --> 02:21:46,880
and

3337
02:21:50,870 --> 02:21:48,399
when you do that

3338
02:21:51,750 --> 02:21:50,880
you soon find out

3339
02:21:54,630 --> 02:21:51,760
that

3340
02:21:57,590 --> 02:21:54,640
you yourself are an extraordinary

3341
02:21:58,870 --> 02:21:57,600
mystery and everyone is like this

3342
02:22:01,429 --> 02:21:58,880
we just don't

3343
02:22:03,750 --> 02:22:01,439
let ourselves look at it but one of the

3344
02:22:05,830 --> 02:22:03,760
things when you get shaken up by

3345
02:22:08,230 --> 02:22:05,840
an initiatory experience like the

3346
02:22:10,309 --> 02:22:08,240
abduction experience

3347
02:22:14,230 --> 02:22:10,319
initiate by initiatory i mean it doesn't

3348
02:22:16,790 --> 02:22:14,240
tell you secrets it overturns your life

3349
02:22:18,230 --> 02:22:16,800
when you get shaken up like that

3350
02:22:20,309 --> 02:22:18,240
all of a sudden

3351
02:22:23,510 --> 02:22:20,319
you begin to look at yourself and the

3352
02:22:25,190 --> 02:22:23,520
world around you in a completely new way

3353
02:22:27,110 --> 02:22:25,200
and you know

3354
02:22:30,070 --> 02:22:27,120
very quickly

3355
02:22:31,429 --> 02:22:30,080
that there is someone very powerful in

3356
02:22:33,429 --> 02:22:31,439
the room

3357
02:22:35,590 --> 02:22:33,439
and it's you

3358
02:22:37,910 --> 02:22:35,600
and then you know

3359
02:22:39,429 --> 02:22:37,920
sooner or later you begin to come into

3360
02:22:41,910 --> 02:22:39,439
contact with

3361
02:22:43,910 --> 02:22:41,920
other entities but you realize

3362
02:22:45,750 --> 02:22:43,920
you don't you're assuming that they're

3363
02:22:47,270 --> 02:22:45,760
aliens they could be something very

3364
02:22:51,190 --> 02:22:47,280
different

3365
02:22:54,630 --> 02:22:51,200
for example

3366
02:22:58,150 --> 02:22:54,640
if time travel is possible

3367
02:23:01,270 --> 02:22:58,160
then someone coming from the future

3368
02:23:02,950 --> 02:23:01,280
would have more freedom of action in

3369
02:23:04,469 --> 02:23:02,960
this world

3370
02:23:07,110 --> 02:23:04,479
if they

3371
02:23:08,790 --> 02:23:07,120
were con they were able to convince us

3372
02:23:11,190 --> 02:23:08,800
that they were something that doesn't

3373
02:23:13,990 --> 02:23:11,200
actually exist right

3374
02:23:16,630 --> 02:23:14,000
the aliens may be us in disguise in

3375
02:23:19,910 --> 02:23:16,640
other words

3376
02:23:20,950 --> 02:23:19,920
the other possibility is the dead

3377
02:23:23,830 --> 02:23:20,960
i mean

3378
02:23:26,550 --> 02:23:23,840
the implant was put into me the the that

3379
02:23:28,070 --> 02:23:26,560
was put in in may of 89

3380
02:23:30,790 --> 02:23:28,080
into my ear

3381
02:23:32,630 --> 02:23:30,800
was put into me by people to people they

3382
02:23:34,230 --> 02:23:32,640
weren't aliens

3383
02:23:36,469 --> 02:23:34,240
there may have been an alien with them

3384
02:23:38,150 --> 02:23:36,479
but i are something non-human looking

3385
02:23:40,630 --> 02:23:38,160
with them but i didn't really see that i

3386
02:23:43,349 --> 02:23:40,640
just thought that might be there

3387
02:23:46,630 --> 02:23:44,950
then

3388
02:23:47,910 --> 02:23:46,640
a couple of years ago a year and a half

3389
02:23:49,830 --> 02:23:47,920
ago

3390
02:23:53,910 --> 02:23:49,840
when some people came here to this

3391
02:23:54,790 --> 02:23:53,920
apartment to explain this thing to me

3392
02:23:56,950 --> 02:23:54,800
they

3393
02:24:01,110 --> 02:23:56,960
identified it as having been designed

3394
02:24:03,510 --> 02:24:01,120
not by any aliens but by a man named

3395
02:24:06,550 --> 02:24:03,520
constantine rodovae

3396
02:24:08,469 --> 02:24:06,560
who was in this life an expert at

3397
02:24:11,190 --> 02:24:08,479
uh

3398
02:24:13,349 --> 02:24:11,200
electronic voice phenomena evp which is

3399
02:24:15,349 --> 02:24:13,359
communication with the dead via

3400
02:24:17,670 --> 02:24:15,359
electronic voices

3401
02:24:21,429 --> 02:24:17,680
um

3402
02:24:23,830 --> 02:24:21,439
who designed it from the other side

3403
02:24:27,030 --> 02:24:23,840
he designed it from the other world the

3404
02:24:28,710 --> 02:24:27,040
world of the dead and what is remarkable

3405
02:24:31,750 --> 02:24:28,720
is

3406
02:24:34,550 --> 02:24:31,760
the only other person i know who has one

3407
02:24:37,190 --> 02:24:34,560
is guess what an expert on constantine

3408
02:24:40,870 --> 02:24:39,270
the only and he didn't know that i mean

3409
02:24:44,230 --> 02:24:40,880
he didn't it was

3410
02:24:46,070 --> 02:24:44,240
so what are we looking at here

3411
02:24:48,870 --> 02:24:46,080
a dead man

3412
02:24:51,429 --> 02:24:48,880
invented the most extraordinary research

3413
02:24:53,349 --> 02:24:51,439
tool you can imagine having in your

3414
02:24:55,830 --> 02:24:53,359
possession

3415
02:24:59,429 --> 02:24:55,840
a tool that links you to another world

3416
02:25:00,230 --> 02:24:59,439
to the world of what we call the dead

3417
02:25:02,550 --> 02:25:00,240
uh

3418
02:25:06,950 --> 02:25:02,560
human beings put it into my body that

3419
02:25:08,710 --> 02:25:06,960
were physical and as real as you and me

3420
02:25:11,190 --> 02:25:08,720
what are we

3421
02:25:13,270 --> 02:25:11,200
we can go out of our bodies

3422
02:25:14,870 --> 02:25:13,280
people have moved through time i'm not

3423
02:25:16,710 --> 02:25:14,880
the only person who's had an experience

3424
02:25:17,910 --> 02:25:16,720
of moving through time

3425
02:25:20,070 --> 02:25:17,920
and you know

3426
02:25:22,389 --> 02:25:20,080
recently i was

3427
02:25:23,429 --> 02:25:22,399
my website's got a lot of

3428
02:25:26,309 --> 02:25:23,439
social

3429
02:25:29,349 --> 02:25:26,319
interaction on it and uh

3430
02:25:31,190 --> 02:25:29,359
i was a lady was i was asking me some

3431
02:25:33,830 --> 02:25:31,200
questions about the time travel

3432
02:25:35,349 --> 02:25:33,840
experience in 1983 where i was standing

3433
02:25:36,870 --> 02:25:35,359
on the street corner in new york and i

3434
02:25:38,950 --> 02:25:36,880
suddenly went back

3435
02:25:41,190 --> 02:25:38,960
into the what looked to me like the

3436
02:25:43,270 --> 02:25:41,200
1870s or 80s or something like that i

3437
02:25:45,830 --> 02:25:43,280
was there for a few minutes and then

3438
02:25:47,830 --> 02:25:45,840
returned to this world

3439
02:25:49,270 --> 02:25:47,840
but sheik said to me something

3440
02:25:50,230 --> 02:25:49,280
fascinating

3441
02:25:52,309 --> 02:25:50,240
she said

3442
02:25:54,309 --> 02:25:52,319
i explained to her exactly where it was

3443
02:25:56,630 --> 02:25:54,319
and she said did you know

3444
02:25:58,070 --> 02:25:56,640
what was across the street from you at

3445
02:26:01,510 --> 02:25:58,080
that time

3446
02:26:03,910 --> 02:26:01,520
in this world it's two big condos

3447
02:26:05,750 --> 02:26:03,920
and i said no i didn't

3448
02:26:08,870 --> 02:26:05,760
i saw brownstones

3449
02:26:11,030 --> 02:26:08,880
she said whitley that was

3450
02:26:13,190 --> 02:26:11,040
nikola tesla's lab

3451
02:26:16,790 --> 02:26:13,200
was there

3452
02:26:18,870 --> 02:26:16,800
and he was working on among other things

3453
02:26:20,790 --> 02:26:18,880
time

3454
02:26:22,150 --> 02:26:20,800
and one of the things that comes up by

3455
02:26:25,110 --> 02:26:22,160
the way in our

3456
02:26:26,230 --> 02:26:25,120
in the observers is nikola tesla and the

3457
02:26:29,910 --> 02:26:26,240
fact

3458
02:26:33,190 --> 02:26:29,920
that his research was stolen

3459
02:26:37,510 --> 02:26:33,200
by the government and hidden

3460
02:26:42,230 --> 02:26:39,590
one thing that doesn't come up in there

3461
02:26:43,030 --> 02:26:42,240
that just infuriated me

3462
02:26:46,469 --> 02:26:43,040
uh

3463
02:26:50,070 --> 02:26:47,990
who by the way

3464
02:26:52,150 --> 02:26:50,080
was the initiator of all this disclosure

3465
02:26:53,110 --> 02:26:52,160
stuff and i mean we shouldn't forget

3466
02:26:55,030 --> 02:26:53,120
that

3467
02:26:57,110 --> 02:26:55,040
uh in any case

3468
02:26:59,190 --> 02:26:57,120
he said that he was going to release the

3469
02:27:00,870 --> 02:26:59,200
kennedy data

3470
02:27:02,870 --> 02:27:00,880
and then he backtracked and said he

3471
02:27:04,150 --> 02:27:02,880
wouldn't do it

3472
02:27:06,790 --> 02:27:04,160
and then

3473
02:27:09,030 --> 02:27:06,800
biden just last week we had a story on

3474
02:27:11,670 --> 02:27:09,040
our website on unknown country

3475
02:27:12,870 --> 02:27:11,680
a few days ago

3476
02:27:14,870 --> 02:27:12,880
he said

3477
02:27:16,469 --> 02:27:14,880
he's not going to do it either

3478
02:27:18,469 --> 02:27:16,479
and they come up with these mealy mouth

3479
02:27:21,190 --> 02:27:18,479
excuses come on

3480
02:27:22,469 --> 02:27:21,200
that the data hasn't been collected yet

3481
02:27:26,150 --> 02:27:22,479
well the data has been sitting there

3482
02:27:29,750 --> 02:27:26,160
since 1963 it's the library of congress

3483
02:27:34,389 --> 02:27:32,150
and why isn't it

3484
02:27:36,230 --> 02:27:34,399
well i think i know the reason and i and

3485
02:27:37,510 --> 02:27:36,240
i'm not going to say it

3486
02:27:38,550 --> 02:27:37,520
completely

3487
02:27:40,309 --> 02:27:38,560
but

3488
02:27:41,750 --> 02:27:40,319
well i'm not going to go there i'm not

3489
02:27:43,030 --> 02:27:41,760
going to go there yet because not

3490
02:27:44,550 --> 02:27:43,040
because i'm trying to keep secrets

3491
02:27:45,429 --> 02:27:44,560
because i don't have enough information

3492
02:27:47,750 --> 02:27:45,439
yet

3493
02:27:49,110 --> 02:27:47,760
but they won't tell us the truth about

3494
02:27:51,190 --> 02:27:49,120
that

3495
02:27:52,389 --> 02:27:51,200
they won't tell they don't tell the

3496
02:27:54,790 --> 02:27:52,399
truth

3497
02:27:56,389 --> 02:27:54,800
if our movie's about anything

3498
02:28:01,270 --> 02:27:56,399
it's about

3499
02:28:04,070 --> 02:28:01,280
the fact that we're not told the truth

3500
02:28:06,150 --> 02:28:04,080
richard dolan has very moving things to

3501
02:28:09,750 --> 02:28:06,160
say about that in the movie yes he does

3502
02:28:13,270 --> 02:28:09,760
and what that means to all of us

3503
02:28:15,030 --> 02:28:13,280
we live in a world where we pay through

3504
02:28:18,150 --> 02:28:15,040
the nose for it

3505
02:28:19,349 --> 02:28:18,160
and we're not told the truth

3506
02:28:21,990 --> 02:28:19,359
none of us

3507
02:28:24,630 --> 02:28:22,000
not the americans the russians the

3508
02:28:27,429 --> 02:28:24,640
chinese any of the europeans nobody's

3509
02:28:28,630 --> 02:28:27,439
told the truth by government

3510
02:28:30,710 --> 02:28:28,640
nobody

3511
02:28:31,830 --> 02:28:30,720
and i'm telling you it's time for that

3512
02:28:34,790 --> 02:28:31,840
to end

3513
02:28:37,190 --> 02:28:34,800
it's time for not just the americans but

3514
02:28:41,110 --> 02:28:37,200
all the people of the world to band

3515
02:28:43,429 --> 02:28:41,120
together and say enough of this crap

3516
02:28:47,110 --> 02:28:43,439
tell us the truth like

3517
02:28:48,870 --> 02:28:47,120
do they know how the uaps work

3518
02:28:50,630 --> 02:28:48,880
do they actually know how that

3519
02:28:53,510 --> 02:28:50,640
technology works

3520
02:28:55,510 --> 02:28:53,520
and they're hiding it

3521
02:28:59,750 --> 02:28:55,520
how dare they right

3522
02:29:02,710 --> 02:28:59,760
we need that and we need it now right

3523
02:29:04,070 --> 02:29:02,720
right and right that's exactly the point

3524
02:29:04,950 --> 02:29:04,080
there is uh

3525
02:29:11,590 --> 02:29:04,960
uh

3526
02:29:13,830 --> 02:29:11,600
comments on this but it was a very

3527
02:29:14,790 --> 02:29:13,840
i'm going to say this brilliant

3528
02:29:16,710 --> 02:29:14,800
uh

3529
02:29:17,990 --> 02:29:16,720
point of storytelling from roger

3530
02:29:19,110 --> 02:29:18,000
richards

3531
02:29:19,910 --> 02:29:19,120
how

3532
02:29:21,750 --> 02:29:19,920
the

3533
02:29:24,150 --> 02:29:21,760
jfk

3534
02:29:25,190 --> 02:29:24,160
those files the knowledge and everything

3535
02:29:27,110 --> 02:29:25,200
there

3536
02:29:30,790 --> 02:29:27,120
if it's lee harvey and he did it by

3537
02:29:33,030 --> 02:29:30,800
himself and that's the truth then why

3538
02:29:39,190 --> 02:29:33,040
what are you withholding from us or is

3539
02:29:44,550 --> 02:29:41,349
it's very plain and simple

3540
02:29:47,990 --> 02:29:44,560
and if they are doing that with this

3541
02:29:49,990 --> 02:29:48,000
then they are doing it with everything

3542
02:29:52,309 --> 02:29:50,000
and your world is not what it seems to

3543
02:29:54,150 --> 02:29:52,319
be and and

3544
02:29:56,550 --> 02:29:54,160
that's exactly right and that's why

3545
02:29:57,830 --> 02:29:56,560
things like q and on come along because

3546
02:29:59,510 --> 02:29:57,840
people don't know what to believe and

3547
02:30:01,190 --> 02:29:59,520
what not to believe and they're grasping

3548
02:30:03,830 --> 02:30:01,200
at straws

3549
02:30:07,030 --> 02:30:03,840
if they're not being tricked into making

3550
02:30:09,510 --> 02:30:07,040
fools of themselves by by an if it's not

3551
02:30:13,190 --> 02:30:09,520
an intelligence operation designed to

3552
02:30:15,670 --> 02:30:13,200
make all conspiracy theories look stupid

3553
02:30:17,590 --> 02:30:15,680
and that's why you are whitley strieber

3554
02:30:18,790 --> 02:30:17,600
thank you for the conversation tonight

3555
02:30:20,870 --> 02:30:18,800
whitley

3556
02:30:23,750 --> 02:30:20,880
that's been good jimmy it always is it

3557
02:30:26,389 --> 02:30:23,760
always is and i look forward uh to you

3558
02:30:28,630 --> 02:30:26,399
venturing my way and uh we'll go see

3559
02:30:32,790 --> 02:30:28,640
some things out here but until then i'm

3560
02:30:34,710 --> 02:30:32,800
gonna come out there god help you

3561
02:30:37,670 --> 02:30:34,720
whitley you're the very best and again

3562
02:30:39,349 --> 02:30:37,680
unknown country.com go

3563
02:30:41,469 --> 02:30:39,359
venture through there i've been doing it

3564
02:30:42,870 --> 02:30:41,479
for many years become a subscriber

3565
02:30:46,230 --> 02:30:42,880
unknowncountry.com and of course

3566
02:30:48,710 --> 02:30:46,240
streamer.com whitley uh get back to work

3567
02:30:50,309 --> 02:30:48,720
on your book i look forward to it i'll

3568
02:30:51,830 --> 02:30:50,319
see you next thursday though you're

3569
02:30:53,190 --> 02:30:51,840
going to come back here

3570
02:30:55,910 --> 02:30:53,200
uh because we're going to have a little

3571
02:30:57,590 --> 02:30:55,920
launch party on november 18th and you're

3572
02:31:00,389 --> 02:30:57,600
going to be a big part of it for the

3573
02:31:02,710 --> 02:31:00,399
premiere of the observers thank you so

3574
02:31:05,110 --> 02:31:02,720
much my friend thank you

3575
02:31:07,429 --> 02:31:05,120
whitley strieber i'm going to take a

3576
02:31:10,830 --> 02:31:07,439
quick break whitley strieber unknown

3577
02:31:12,790 --> 02:31:10,840
country.com the links are right there at

3578
02:31:15,349 --> 02:31:12,800
jimmychurchradio.com i'm going to take a

3579
02:31:17,429 --> 02:31:15,359
quick break and i'll circle back and i'm

3580
02:31:20,349 --> 02:31:17,439
trying to save my voice this is fade to

3581
02:31:22,870 --> 02:31:20,359
black i'm murals jimmy church

3582
02:31:25,860 --> 02:31:22,880
747-228-2051 i'll take some phone calls

3583
02:31:49,030 --> 02:31:25,870
i'll be right back stay with us

3584
02:31:52,710 --> 02:31:51,190
you're listening to jimmy church and

3585
02:31:57,670 --> 02:31:52,720
made to black

3586
02:32:01,910 --> 02:31:59,510
hey what up y'all should go biblical fox

3587
02:32:07,190 --> 02:32:01,920
here and you are listening to my boy

3588
02:32:16,390 --> 02:32:09,750
despite popular opinion

3589
02:32:19,830 --> 02:32:18,150
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[Music]

3645
02:35:27,030 --> 02:35:25,270
welcome back fade to black i'm real

3646
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jimmy church

3647
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what a great conversation with whitley

3648
02:35:32,550 --> 02:35:30,479
and

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02:35:35,349 --> 02:35:32,560
uh one of the um

3650
02:35:37,510 --> 02:35:35,359
interesting things for me i've had

3651
02:35:39,590 --> 02:35:37,520
lots of conversations uh with whitley

3652
02:35:42,389 --> 02:35:39,600
over the years both on the air and off

3653
02:35:45,270 --> 02:35:42,399
and and certainly through uh throughout

3654
02:35:46,389 --> 02:35:45,280
this new film uh the observers

3655
02:35:49,750 --> 02:35:46,399
and

3656
02:35:51,110 --> 02:35:49,760
what i enjoy the most is getting into

3657
02:35:53,670 --> 02:35:51,120
territory

3658
02:35:55,510 --> 02:35:53,680
that we've never talked about before and

3659
02:35:56,790 --> 02:35:55,520
that's exactly what this conversation

3660
02:36:00,309 --> 02:35:56,800
was tonight

3661
02:36:02,550 --> 02:36:00,319
and uh i i learned a lot from whitley

3662
02:36:06,230 --> 02:36:02,560
he's uh one of the most intelligent

3663
02:36:08,710 --> 02:36:06,240
people that i've ever come to know and

3664
02:36:11,110 --> 02:36:08,720
very happy to be able to call him friend

3665
02:36:16,950 --> 02:36:11,120
and and and we talk a lot

3666
02:36:20,469 --> 02:36:16,960
um but uh it just letting his mind go

3667
02:36:21,750 --> 02:36:20,479
and and listening and if that's

3668
02:36:22,790 --> 02:36:21,760
thank goodness

3669
02:36:25,110 --> 02:36:22,800
uh

3670
02:36:28,630 --> 02:36:25,120
tonight i'm in the frame of mind where i

3671
02:36:31,990 --> 02:36:28,640
i just want to be the observer

3672
02:36:34,710 --> 02:36:32,000
um uh going back to the film

3673
02:36:36,710 --> 02:36:34,720
the film is called the observers uh for

3674
02:36:39,510 --> 02:36:36,720
a reason

3675
02:36:41,110 --> 02:36:39,520
that we are all observers

3676
02:36:42,070 --> 02:36:41,120
all of us

3677
02:36:44,790 --> 02:36:42,080
and

3678
02:36:47,190 --> 02:36:44,800
uh getting this collective mindset

3679
02:36:49,429 --> 02:36:47,200
together as observers what have they

3680
02:36:50,950 --> 02:36:49,439
observed what is disclosure what is

3681
02:36:53,270 --> 02:36:50,960
going on now

3682
02:36:55,110 --> 02:36:53,280
that was the mission behind this film

3683
02:36:56,870 --> 02:36:55,120
but we are all

3684
02:36:58,150 --> 02:36:56,880
observers

3685
02:37:04,550 --> 02:36:58,160
we're all

3686
02:37:08,469 --> 02:37:04,560
what is it that that we are seeing

3687
02:37:11,590 --> 02:37:08,479
and and collectively i think that uh we

3688
02:37:13,910 --> 02:37:11,600
can come together and start to realize

3689
02:37:16,630 --> 02:37:13,920
that we are all seeing things we are all

3690
02:37:19,750 --> 02:37:16,640
observing things not only

3691
02:37:21,429 --> 02:37:19,760
uh uh things in the sky and

3692
02:37:23,910 --> 02:37:21,439
and uh

3693
02:37:25,750 --> 02:37:23,920
an extraterrestrial civilization is here

3694
02:37:27,990 --> 02:37:25,760
visiting us and we're observing it yeah

3695
02:37:30,309 --> 02:37:28,000
of course of course that's part of it

3696
02:37:32,790 --> 02:37:30,319
but it's everything else

3697
02:37:35,270 --> 02:37:32,800
and and collectively

3698
02:37:36,870 --> 02:37:35,280
uh this planet uh

3699
02:37:39,510 --> 02:37:36,880
uh earthlings

3700
02:37:41,590 --> 02:37:39,520
us here

3701
02:37:43,670 --> 02:37:41,600
we need to start observing we need to

3702
02:37:46,550 --> 02:37:43,680
start looking around

3703
02:37:49,670 --> 02:37:46,560
and and seeing things differently than

3704
02:37:51,830 --> 02:37:49,680
we ever have before in the past and we

3705
02:37:54,150 --> 02:37:51,840
are right there

3706
02:37:55,910 --> 02:37:54,160
that we are at a moment we are at a

3707
02:37:58,230 --> 02:37:55,920
point in history

3708
02:38:00,630 --> 02:37:58,240
where this is happening it's happening

3709
02:38:03,110 --> 02:38:00,640
to us in real time

3710
02:38:05,910 --> 02:38:03,120
and i am so happy

3711
02:38:09,830 --> 02:38:05,920
that uh this group

3712
02:38:13,429 --> 02:38:09,840
uh was able to get together and and talk

3713
02:38:15,270 --> 02:38:13,439
about this moment in time where we are

3714
02:38:18,469 --> 02:38:15,280
and this film

3715
02:38:19,429 --> 02:38:18,479
will be important i know that

3716
02:38:20,389 --> 02:38:19,439
um

3717
02:38:22,550 --> 02:38:20,399
uh

3718
02:38:24,309 --> 02:38:22,560
i i know the conversations that we had i

3719
02:38:28,230 --> 02:38:24,319
know how the film was put together i

3720
02:38:31,750 --> 02:38:28,240
know all of these things but after uh i

3721
02:38:35,190 --> 02:38:31,760
was able to to see the film

3722
02:38:39,670 --> 02:38:38,309
and said this is important

3723
02:38:43,830 --> 02:38:39,680
this is

3724
02:38:44,870 --> 02:38:43,840
it is

3725
02:38:45,990 --> 02:38:44,880
and

3726
02:38:54,070 --> 02:38:46,000
uh

3727
02:38:56,630 --> 02:38:54,080
and i was so relieved

3728
02:38:58,790 --> 02:38:56,640
he said this thing is great this is an

3729
02:38:59,830 --> 02:38:58,800
amazing film and

3730
02:39:00,790 --> 02:38:59,840
and

3731
02:39:02,309 --> 02:39:00,800
uh

3732
02:39:04,070 --> 02:39:02,319
i i needed

3733
02:39:06,070 --> 02:39:04,080
i needed to hear that i've heard that

3734
02:39:06,950 --> 02:39:06,080
from everybody that has already seen the

3735
02:39:08,230 --> 02:39:06,960
film

3736
02:39:09,030 --> 02:39:08,240
but in that

3737
02:39:12,230 --> 02:39:09,040
um

3738
02:39:14,150 --> 02:39:12,240
i was able to just sit back and go

3739
02:39:17,590 --> 02:39:14,160
it it happened

3740
02:39:20,870 --> 02:39:17,600
right where a film is approaching this

3741
02:39:23,270 --> 02:39:20,880
from a different angle

3742
02:39:26,469 --> 02:39:23,280
this is an emotional film

3743
02:39:29,429 --> 02:39:26,479
um uh one of the things that uh

3744
02:39:32,630 --> 02:39:29,439
whitley touched upon tonight um we have

3745
02:39:34,309 --> 02:39:32,640
the science but there's another

3746
02:39:35,030 --> 02:39:34,319
conversation that needs to be happened

3747
02:39:36,830 --> 02:39:35,040
here

3748
02:39:40,150 --> 02:39:36,840
and it is a

3749
02:39:41,270 --> 02:39:40,160
philosophical uh conversation that has

3750
02:39:42,550 --> 02:39:41,280
to

3751
02:39:43,670 --> 02:39:42,560
uh happen

3752
02:39:46,309 --> 02:39:43,680
with um

3753
02:39:48,389 --> 02:39:46,319
a different perspective from everybody

3754
02:39:50,630 --> 02:39:48,399
where it is all laid out from

3755
02:39:54,389 --> 02:39:50,640
a different mindset everybody's got a

3756
02:39:57,030 --> 02:39:54,399
different way of observing

3757
02:39:58,790 --> 02:39:57,040
and that's what this film is about it is

3758
02:40:00,790 --> 02:39:58,800
going to be an important film and i'm

3759
02:40:02,550 --> 02:40:00,800
not i'm not putting anything on a

3760
02:40:04,389 --> 02:40:02,560
pedestal here and i'm not trying to

3761
02:40:09,510 --> 02:40:04,399
suggest that the film is something that

3762
02:40:12,550 --> 02:40:09,520
it isn't it is going to be impactful

3763
02:40:14,070 --> 02:40:12,560
and i am very excited uh for the rest of

3764
02:40:16,710 --> 02:40:14,080
the planet uh

3765
02:40:18,710 --> 02:40:16,720
next thursday november 18th when this

3766
02:40:22,150 --> 02:40:18,720
thing releases

3767
02:40:23,190 --> 02:40:22,160
i know it is going to have an emotional

3768
02:40:25,670 --> 02:40:23,200
impact

3769
02:40:27,910 --> 02:40:25,680
on everybody outside of this community

3770
02:40:30,550 --> 02:40:27,920
i'm very happy for this community by the

3771
02:40:31,990 --> 02:40:30,560
way for a film like this to to finally

3772
02:40:34,230 --> 02:40:32,000
get released

3773
02:40:35,030 --> 02:40:34,240
um and and i think that whitley said it

3774
02:40:37,910 --> 02:40:35,040
best

3775
02:40:39,750 --> 02:40:37,920
that it's never it's it's been attempted

3776
02:40:40,870 --> 02:40:39,760
people have talked about doing this

3777
02:40:42,309 --> 02:40:40,880
before

3778
02:40:45,590 --> 02:40:42,319
and something gets lost in the

3779
02:40:46,550 --> 02:40:45,600
translation and it's it's never

3780
02:40:49,349 --> 02:40:46,560
uh

3781
02:40:51,429 --> 02:40:49,359
it's it's never that something gets lost

3782
02:40:54,389 --> 02:40:51,439
along the way well

3783
02:40:58,070 --> 02:40:54,399
you wait november 18th

3784
02:41:05,030 --> 02:40:58,080
it's gonna be a great night okay uh

3785
02:41:10,230 --> 02:41:08,710
trying to save it 747-2282051

3786
02:41:12,389 --> 02:41:10,240
i've got time for

3787
02:41:17,110 --> 02:41:12,399
uh a couple of phone calls hi you're

3788
02:41:23,030 --> 02:41:19,990
oh oops i didn't hit the button

3789
02:41:25,269 --> 02:41:23,040
okay all right okay oh you got to turn

3790
02:41:26,630 --> 02:41:25,279
me down in the background save my voice

3791
02:41:29,269 --> 02:41:26,640
okay

3792
02:41:33,190 --> 02:41:29,279
hi you're live on facebook

3793
02:41:35,910 --> 02:41:33,200
hi jimmy it's deb from sacramento hi deb

3794
02:41:37,510 --> 02:41:35,920
hi i cannot wait for this film to drop i

3795
02:41:39,349 --> 02:41:37,520
watched your interview over the weekend

3796
02:41:40,550 --> 02:41:39,359
with um

3797
02:41:42,630 --> 02:41:40,560
um

3798
02:41:45,510 --> 02:41:42,640
you know cameron

3799
02:41:49,030 --> 02:41:45,520
oh yeah grant cameron uh nicole nicole

3800
02:41:51,429 --> 02:41:49,040
sakic yes i cannot wait to hear um the

3801
02:41:54,469 --> 02:41:51,439
view from william henry

3802
02:41:56,309 --> 02:41:54,479
and whitley and linda on the stole

3803
02:42:00,070 --> 02:41:56,319
because i think it's a really

3804
02:42:02,070 --> 02:42:00,080
key element of why we're all here

3805
02:42:03,750 --> 02:42:02,080
and i believe personally in full

3806
02:42:06,150 --> 02:42:03,760
contracts

3807
02:42:08,870 --> 02:42:06,160
and i think that we are spiritual beings

3808
02:42:10,790 --> 02:42:08,880
having a human experience

3809
02:42:12,790 --> 02:42:10,800
and so i'm really looking forward to

3810
02:42:13,910 --> 02:42:12,800
that part of the film well all of it of

3811
02:42:15,830 --> 02:42:13,920
course

3812
02:42:17,830 --> 02:42:15,840
and i think this film

3813
02:42:19,750 --> 02:42:17,840
the date that it's dropping is wonderful

3814
02:42:20,630 --> 02:42:19,760
because hopefully enough people will see

3815
02:42:22,309 --> 02:42:20,640
it

3816
02:42:24,309 --> 02:42:22,319
where i think you guys mentioned in the

3817
02:42:26,550 --> 02:42:24,319
interview it will be a conversation

3818
02:42:28,230 --> 02:42:26,560
around a lot of thanksgiving tables with

3819
02:42:30,630 --> 02:42:28,240
family and friends

3820
02:42:33,429 --> 02:42:30,640
and so i'm really celebrating that i

3821
02:42:36,389 --> 02:42:33,439
really hope that happens

3822
02:42:38,950 --> 02:42:36,399
is that thanksgiving

3823
02:42:41,190 --> 02:42:38,960
is it thanksgiving is the 25th a week

3824
02:42:42,710 --> 02:42:41,200
later okay yeah don't throw me off like

3825
02:42:44,309 --> 02:42:42,720
that i was just like oh man are you

3826
02:42:46,870 --> 02:42:44,319
kidding me next week is thanksgiving i

3827
02:42:48,790 --> 02:42:46,880
haven't even thought about it yet

3828
02:42:51,590 --> 02:42:48,800
yeah i think it's the 25th the following

3829
02:42:55,590 --> 02:42:51,600
thursday okay hopefully that will be a

3830
02:42:57,830 --> 02:42:55,600
big topic yeah um the uh

3831
02:43:00,070 --> 02:42:57,840
the conversation that i had with uh uh

3832
02:43:01,670 --> 02:43:00,080
grant and nicole

3833
02:43:03,750 --> 02:43:01,680
um

3834
02:43:05,750 --> 02:43:03,760
i was having a brain fart

3835
02:43:09,110 --> 02:43:05,760
what was what was interesting about that

3836
02:43:11,990 --> 02:43:09,120
i remember uh uh we were supposed to uh

3837
02:43:14,630 --> 02:43:12,000
go for an hour i think we ended up doing

3838
02:43:17,030 --> 02:43:14,640
two hours uh together you did an hour

3839
02:43:18,630 --> 02:43:17,040
14. we didn't hour 14 i remember it

3840
02:43:21,830 --> 02:43:18,640
because i had to schedule it that was

3841
02:43:25,590 --> 02:43:21,840
just an hour 14 to see longer but anyway

3842
02:43:28,550 --> 02:43:25,600
um but they have seen the film and not

3843
02:43:30,389 --> 02:43:28,560
many people have it's been uh i'm just

3844
02:43:32,790 --> 02:43:30,399
talking about a handful of people

3845
02:43:35,190 --> 02:43:32,800
outside of the cast and crew um have

3846
02:43:37,349 --> 02:43:35,200
seen the film but i was very happy

3847
02:43:38,230 --> 02:43:37,359
uh to

3848
02:43:41,030 --> 02:43:38,240
to

3849
02:43:43,110 --> 02:43:41,040
there's a certain sense of relief um

3850
02:43:43,910 --> 02:43:43,120
because

3851
02:43:47,030 --> 02:43:43,920
uh

3852
02:43:49,110 --> 02:43:47,040
it's not so much i'm not worried about

3853
02:43:51,590 --> 02:43:49,120
the content of the film

3854
02:43:54,389 --> 02:43:51,600
um at all the the film's gonna stand on

3855
02:43:56,950 --> 02:43:54,399
its own what i what i'm

3856
02:43:58,469 --> 02:43:56,960
really interested in finding out

3857
02:43:59,510 --> 02:43:58,479
if it has

3858
02:44:00,550 --> 02:43:59,520
uh

3859
02:44:06,230 --> 02:44:00,560
the

3860
02:44:07,990 --> 02:44:06,240
i think that it should

3861
02:44:09,830 --> 02:44:08,000
and i don't want that to be a part of my

3862
02:44:11,110 --> 02:44:09,840
imagination

3863
02:44:12,790 --> 02:44:11,120
you know what i mean because it's it's

3864
02:44:15,110 --> 02:44:12,800
hit me in a certain way and those were

3865
02:44:18,950 --> 02:44:15,120
the goals from the beginning

3866
02:44:20,469 --> 02:44:18,960
but uh nicole and grant were right there

3867
02:44:21,349 --> 02:44:20,479
they got it

3868
02:44:22,150 --> 02:44:21,359
and

3869
02:44:28,630 --> 02:44:22,160
uh

3870
02:44:32,389 --> 02:44:28,640
i think is is most important here

3871
02:44:34,070 --> 02:44:32,399
is that with with a film like this um

3872
02:44:37,750 --> 02:44:34,080
and i and i've

3873
02:44:38,950 --> 02:44:37,760
i've tried to state this this feeling

3874
02:44:40,550 --> 02:44:38,960
they're

3875
02:44:42,469 --> 02:44:40,560
um

3876
02:44:44,870 --> 02:44:42,479
there are those

3877
02:44:49,190 --> 02:44:44,880
the ones that

3878
02:44:51,990 --> 02:44:49,200
truly are in possession of these secrets

3879
02:44:54,550 --> 02:44:52,000
we haven't heard from them

3880
02:44:55,750 --> 02:44:54,560
those those people

3881
02:44:58,550 --> 02:44:55,760
if if

3882
02:45:01,110 --> 02:44:58,560
if you know somebody's name

3883
02:45:03,349 --> 02:45:01,120
then they don't know the secrets

3884
02:45:06,070 --> 02:45:03,359
they don't they really

3885
02:45:09,030 --> 02:45:06,080
they're in the shadows

3886
02:45:12,630 --> 02:45:09,040
and it is our job

3887
02:45:13,830 --> 02:45:12,640
to go and get to the reality of the

3888
02:45:17,030 --> 02:45:13,840
situation

3889
02:45:19,349 --> 02:45:17,040
that is not not only this community but

3890
02:45:22,710 --> 02:45:19,359
everybody on this planet

3891
02:45:24,309 --> 02:45:22,720
that is the mission here we need to get

3892
02:45:28,790 --> 02:45:24,319
to that

3893
02:45:30,710 --> 02:45:28,800
and and for those out there um that are

3894
02:45:32,070 --> 02:45:30,720
trying to say that they know the truth

3895
02:45:34,469 --> 02:45:32,080
uh and i'm talking about from the

3896
02:45:35,269 --> 02:45:34,479
government side or anything

3897
02:45:44,710 --> 02:45:35,279
they

3898
02:45:47,190 --> 02:45:44,720
the the the people that are in the know

3899
02:45:49,670 --> 02:45:47,200
are the experiencers are the people that

3900
02:45:52,309 --> 02:45:49,680
go out and see something in the sky

3901
02:45:54,870 --> 02:45:52,319
those those people i trust

3902
02:45:58,790 --> 02:45:54,880
i know what i have seen

3903
02:45:59,830 --> 02:45:58,800
and we we need to collectively as a

3904
02:46:06,230 --> 02:45:59,840
planet

3905
02:46:07,510 --> 02:46:06,240
go and force this stuff up to the

3906
02:46:09,590 --> 02:46:07,520
surface

3907
02:46:12,070 --> 02:46:09,600
because it's not going to be volunteered

3908
02:46:16,150 --> 02:46:12,080
it's not going to be volunteered the

3909
02:46:19,670 --> 02:46:16,160
government is not your friend

3910
02:46:20,469 --> 02:46:19,680
it is not there are um for those for

3911
02:46:22,710 --> 02:46:20,479
those of you

3912
02:46:24,469 --> 02:46:22,720
bro

3913
02:46:27,429 --> 02:46:24,479
for those out there

3914
02:46:31,429 --> 02:46:27,439
um in in social media

3915
02:46:34,150 --> 02:46:31,439
that uh are putting so much into certain

3916
02:46:35,990 --> 02:46:34,160
individuals uh i'm not gonna get into

3917
02:46:37,750 --> 02:46:36,000
those details i could care less because

3918
02:46:39,750 --> 02:46:37,760
it's not important to me

3919
02:46:40,790 --> 02:46:39,760
that there is

3920
02:46:43,110 --> 02:46:40,800
nothing

3921
02:46:44,550 --> 02:46:43,120
that anybody out there is saying that

3922
02:46:49,030 --> 02:46:44,560
you know

3923
02:46:50,710 --> 02:46:49,040
you the truth they don't know

3924
02:46:53,269 --> 02:46:50,720
that's a bunch of bs

3925
02:46:54,630 --> 02:46:53,279
we need to constantly keep our foot on

3926
02:46:56,230 --> 02:46:54,640
the gas

3927
02:47:00,309 --> 02:46:56,240
i

3928
02:47:01,429 --> 02:47:00,319
that one of the next steps that we can

3929
02:47:02,790 --> 02:47:01,439
do

3930
02:47:04,710 --> 02:47:02,800
is

3931
02:47:07,750 --> 02:47:04,720
go to washington dc

3932
02:47:11,030 --> 02:47:07,760
maybe we need to have a march maybe we

3933
02:47:12,790 --> 02:47:11,040
need to have the million e.t march maybe

3934
02:47:15,190 --> 02:47:12,800
we need to gather on the steps of the

3935
02:47:18,150 --> 02:47:15,200
lincoln memorial with a few hundred

3936
02:47:20,710 --> 02:47:18,160
thousand people gathered yelling and

3937
02:47:23,670 --> 02:47:20,720
screaming for the truth

3938
02:47:26,230 --> 02:47:23,680
and it's up to us more than that well

3939
02:47:28,630 --> 02:47:26,240
for it to be a couple million probably

3940
02:47:30,710 --> 02:47:28,640
it's up to us to do that the government

3941
02:47:32,790 --> 02:47:30,720
is not going to

3942
02:47:34,870 --> 02:47:32,800
they're not going to do it voluntarily

3943
02:47:37,510 --> 02:47:34,880
it's it's just not going to happen

3944
02:47:40,070 --> 02:47:37,520
one of the things um

3945
02:47:43,030 --> 02:47:40,080
i'll talk about lou elizondo

3946
02:47:43,990 --> 02:47:43,040
um and and i spoke to

3947
02:47:45,830 --> 02:47:44,000
uh

3948
02:47:46,950 --> 02:47:45,840
lou earlier today

3949
02:47:49,349 --> 02:47:46,960
and uh

3950
02:47:53,269 --> 02:47:49,359
very interesting conversation but anyway

3951
02:47:56,630 --> 02:47:55,510
does lou know things

3952
02:48:03,670 --> 02:47:56,640
maybe

3953
02:48:05,429 --> 02:48:03,680
um okay but um and and and what i'm

3954
02:48:08,710 --> 02:48:05,439
saying is this

3955
02:48:11,510 --> 02:48:08,720
lou is one of the instruments

3956
02:48:13,429 --> 02:48:11,520
that is out there pushing for this to

3957
02:48:18,070 --> 02:48:13,439
bubble to the surface

3958
02:48:21,190 --> 02:48:18,080
we need more like lou to go and apply

3959
02:48:22,630 --> 02:48:21,200
that pressure and we only do it

3960
02:48:23,830 --> 02:48:22,640
collectively

3961
02:48:27,990 --> 02:48:23,840
if we

3962
02:48:31,269 --> 02:48:28,000
ignore the subject nothing's going to

3963
02:48:34,389 --> 02:48:31,279
get done and that's what the man wants

3964
02:48:35,830 --> 02:48:34,399
the man wants us to to take our eyes off

3965
02:48:38,630 --> 02:48:35,840
the prize

3966
02:48:40,630 --> 02:48:38,640
and and to distract and i'm watching

3967
02:48:41,990 --> 02:48:40,640
that distraction happen

3968
02:48:43,830 --> 02:48:42,000
not only but

3969
02:48:46,309 --> 02:48:43,840
inside of this community is one thing

3970
02:48:49,030 --> 02:48:46,319
but outside of this community there's a

3971
02:48:50,469 --> 02:48:49,040
huge game of smoke and mirrors going on

3972
02:48:53,190 --> 02:48:50,479
and it's the

3973
02:48:54,230 --> 02:48:53,200
it's the game of uh uh

3974
02:48:56,389 --> 02:48:54,240
shells

3975
02:48:59,750 --> 02:48:56,399
and and moving things around where you

3976
02:49:02,389 --> 02:48:59,760
don't know now where to go well we need

3977
02:49:04,389 --> 02:49:02,399
more of the louis lozanos of the world

3978
02:49:06,469 --> 02:49:04,399
of the chris melons who i believe i

3979
02:49:08,230 --> 02:49:06,479
don't agree

3980
02:49:09,830 --> 02:49:08,240
with everything that they have to say i

3981
02:49:15,429 --> 02:49:09,840
don't agree

3982
02:49:19,190 --> 02:49:15,439
not with everything but one thing i do

3983
02:49:21,269 --> 02:49:19,200
agree on is that we need to get answers

3984
02:49:23,030 --> 02:49:21,279
and we have to push this and we have to

3985
02:49:24,230 --> 02:49:23,040
keep our foot on the gas take your foot

3986
02:49:26,150 --> 02:49:24,240
off the gas

3987
02:49:28,710 --> 02:49:26,160
and and lose sight of this and fight

3988
02:49:30,550 --> 02:49:28,720
amongst ourselves and fight as a as a

3989
02:49:33,269 --> 02:49:30,560
world and as a nation

3990
02:49:37,190 --> 02:49:33,279
than the man wins i'm telling you

3991
02:49:39,349 --> 02:49:37,200
the government is not your friend

3992
02:49:40,630 --> 02:49:39,359
and and you know what jimmy i mean there

3993
02:49:43,110 --> 02:49:40,640
i mean to cut you off i just want to say

3994
02:49:45,190 --> 02:49:43,120
this really quick we are observers we

3995
02:49:45,990 --> 02:49:45,200
are researchers and some of us

3996
02:49:47,750 --> 02:49:46,000
um

3997
02:49:49,349 --> 02:49:47,760
be it a blessing or a curse our

3998
02:49:52,150 --> 02:49:49,359
experiencers

3999
02:49:53,830 --> 02:49:52,160
mine has been positive we experienced

4000
02:49:55,990 --> 02:49:53,840
like you just said we've got to get out

4001
02:49:57,190 --> 02:49:56,000
there we have to make our voice heard i

4002
02:49:58,630 --> 02:49:57,200
don't want to cut you off go ahead we'll

4003
02:50:00,230 --> 02:49:58,640
finish your thoughts well that's that's

4004
02:50:02,630 --> 02:50:00,240
about it that's about it but i want to

4005
02:50:04,230 --> 02:50:02,640
thank you for the phone call and uh i'll

4006
02:50:05,349 --> 02:50:04,240
see you tomorrow night we got mike rick

4007
02:50:08,550 --> 02:50:05,359
sucker here

4008
02:50:10,630 --> 02:50:08,560
uh the alaska triangle and uh

4009
02:50:12,150 --> 02:50:10,640
jimmy quick question first of all you

4010
02:50:14,870 --> 02:50:12,160
totally punked us on the broken down

4011
02:50:16,469 --> 02:50:14,880
jeep well played no i didn't i didn't

4012
02:50:18,550 --> 02:50:16,479
you guys punked yourselves we thought

4013
02:50:20,469 --> 02:50:18,560
you were broken down yeah you guys did

4014
02:50:26,710 --> 02:50:20,479
that to yourself

4015
02:50:30,710 --> 02:50:28,630
no i've got my own i've got my own ways

4016
02:50:33,030 --> 02:50:30,720
of doing stuff don't worry about it

4017
02:50:35,510 --> 02:50:33,040
okay i'm not worried i i know it'll work

4018
02:50:37,269 --> 02:50:35,520
here good night or not have a great

4019
02:50:40,309 --> 02:50:37,279
night deb thank you for the phone call

4020
02:50:42,870 --> 02:50:40,319
and it is time to fade to black

4021
02:50:43,830 --> 02:50:42,880
um i uh

4022
02:50:45,910 --> 02:50:43,840
uh

4023
02:50:51,750 --> 02:50:45,920
in

4024
02:50:53,349 --> 02:50:51,760
and the conversations that i've had with

4025
02:50:55,910 --> 02:50:53,359
uh so many

4026
02:50:57,429 --> 02:50:55,920
out there that are uh behind the film

4027
02:50:59,590 --> 02:50:57,439
and and and

4028
02:51:03,670 --> 02:50:59,600
and and getting things done

4029
02:51:06,550 --> 02:51:03,680
one of the things uh uh i went back uh

4030
02:51:08,550 --> 02:51:06,560
over the weekend i had to work uh uh

4031
02:51:12,070 --> 02:51:08,560
doing some stuff for the film

4032
02:51:15,269 --> 02:51:12,080
and that you will see shortly but going

4033
02:51:17,030 --> 02:51:15,279
back and looking at some of these clips

4034
02:51:19,670 --> 02:51:17,040
i uh

4035
02:51:22,070 --> 02:51:19,680
i agree with whitley

4036
02:51:23,349 --> 02:51:22,080
that there was a

4037
02:51:25,590 --> 02:51:23,359
certain

4038
02:51:26,469 --> 02:51:25,600
measurable

4039
02:51:30,230 --> 02:51:26,479
uh

4040
02:51:32,550 --> 02:51:30,240
instances of of anger

4041
02:51:34,389 --> 02:51:32,560
and and i mean it like this it was

4042
02:51:37,269 --> 02:51:34,399
controlled though it wasn't you know

4043
02:51:38,070 --> 02:51:37,279
it's some overt thing but

4044
02:51:39,670 --> 02:51:38,080
that

4045
02:51:40,950 --> 02:51:39,680
finally

4046
02:51:43,190 --> 02:51:40,960
uh

4047
02:51:45,269 --> 02:51:43,200
[Music]

4048
02:51:46,550 --> 02:51:45,279
statements can be made that are going to

4049
02:51:48,230 --> 02:51:46,560
be heard now

4050
02:51:50,070 --> 02:51:48,240
and i think that linda did that i think

4051
02:51:52,070 --> 02:51:50,080
that william did that i think that john

4052
02:51:53,910 --> 02:51:52,080
greenwald did that jesse ventura did

4053
02:51:57,269 --> 02:51:53,920
that lou did that

4054
02:52:00,950 --> 02:51:57,279
um uh richard dolan whitley

4055
02:52:03,429 --> 02:52:00,960
and and to some degree even myself um

4056
02:52:06,389 --> 02:52:03,439
knowing that this time around it was

4057
02:52:08,710 --> 02:52:06,399
going to be presented in a way

4058
02:52:11,590 --> 02:52:08,720
that was going to be heard

4059
02:52:12,469 --> 02:52:11,600
but there was something else

4060
02:52:14,950 --> 02:52:12,479
and

4061
02:52:16,550 --> 02:52:14,960
uh

4062
02:52:19,030 --> 02:52:16,560
i'm not sure

4063
02:52:21,110 --> 02:52:19,040
some of this was captured on film

4064
02:52:23,830 --> 02:52:21,120
but there was something else that

4065
02:52:25,429 --> 02:52:23,840
i think emotionally that uh we all got

4066
02:52:28,630 --> 02:52:25,439
out on the table

4067
02:52:29,990 --> 02:52:28,640
and and that is there were

4068
02:52:32,309 --> 02:52:30,000
so many

4069
02:52:34,630 --> 02:52:32,319
others out there that were part of this

4070
02:52:37,429 --> 02:52:34,640
community that were pushing this forward

4071
02:52:40,150 --> 02:52:37,439
that are not with us today

4072
02:52:43,830 --> 02:52:40,160
and certainly you know a few names come

4073
02:52:46,230 --> 02:52:43,840
to mind jim mars

4074
02:52:48,630 --> 02:52:46,240
stanton friedman

4075
02:52:51,190 --> 02:52:48,640
john anthony west

4076
02:52:52,309 --> 02:52:51,200
and others and others the the list is

4077
02:52:55,429 --> 02:52:52,319
long

4078
02:52:57,190 --> 02:52:55,439
that aren't here right now to not only

4079
02:52:59,590 --> 02:52:57,200
enjoy the moment

4080
02:53:01,510 --> 02:52:59,600
because it's fun

4081
02:53:04,230 --> 02:53:01,520
but to express

4082
02:53:08,150 --> 02:53:04,240
what they have observed and where they

4083
02:53:10,389 --> 02:53:08,160
are now and their input into all of this

4084
02:53:11,750 --> 02:53:10,399
uh cannot be included in this film and

4085
02:53:14,550 --> 02:53:11,760
we sat

4086
02:53:16,710 --> 02:53:14,560
and and talked about those that came

4087
02:53:19,830 --> 02:53:16,720
before us lloyd pie

4088
02:53:21,990 --> 02:53:19,840
you know so many that came before us

4089
02:53:25,429 --> 02:53:22,000
um that aren't here

4090
02:53:26,630 --> 02:53:25,439
that were were a definite soldiers in

4091
02:53:28,630 --> 02:53:26,640
this march

4092
02:53:31,349 --> 02:53:28,640
that were doing everything that they

4093
02:53:33,910 --> 02:53:31,359
could that they committed their lives

4094
02:53:36,230 --> 02:53:33,920
to this decades

4095
02:53:38,790 --> 02:53:36,240
and they are not here today

4096
02:53:39,990 --> 02:53:38,800
and we did take a moment uh it was

4097
02:53:42,150 --> 02:53:40,000
probably

4098
02:53:43,590 --> 02:53:42,160
uh closer to an hour

4099
02:53:45,110 --> 02:53:43,600
where we discussed all of their

4100
02:53:47,670 --> 02:53:45,120
important work

4101
02:53:50,550 --> 02:53:47,680
and and i want to say that now

4102
02:53:52,870 --> 02:53:50,560
um uh next thursday when when the film

4103
02:53:53,750 --> 02:53:52,880
premieres uh oh i wanted to uh state

4104
02:53:57,750 --> 02:53:53,760
this

4105
02:54:00,469 --> 02:53:57,760
thursday we are doing

4106
02:54:01,830 --> 02:54:00,479
uh a very important broadcast on

4107
02:54:06,070 --> 02:54:01,840
thursday night

4108
02:54:08,950 --> 02:54:06,080
and uh it's gonna be simulcast uh here

4109
02:54:11,349 --> 02:54:08,960
um and out on the unex network and

4110
02:54:13,670 --> 02:54:11,359
through all of my uh

4111
02:54:15,830 --> 02:54:13,680
normal syndication that goes out

4112
02:54:20,150 --> 02:54:15,840
but in addition to

4113
02:54:23,030 --> 02:54:20,160
an entire uh network on the back end uh

4114
02:54:25,110 --> 02:54:23,040
that's going to go out to the world and

4115
02:54:26,630 --> 02:54:25,120
and i'm going to bring this up uh next

4116
02:54:28,389 --> 02:54:26,640
thursday night this is going to be great

4117
02:54:30,469 --> 02:54:28,399
we're going to have uh just about

4118
02:54:32,150 --> 02:54:30,479
everybody from the cast i think is going

4119
02:54:35,030 --> 02:54:32,160
to participate

4120
02:54:37,269 --> 02:54:35,040
um in in the show next thursday as this

4121
02:54:40,950 --> 02:54:37,279
film rolls out and premieres

4122
02:54:44,309 --> 02:54:40,960
um but i'm going to we have to

4123
02:54:47,990 --> 02:54:44,319
go back and recognize who came before us

4124
02:54:50,550 --> 02:54:48,000
and who laid this out in front of us

4125
02:54:51,830 --> 02:54:50,560
that are not here today i mean you know

4126
02:54:54,710 --> 02:54:51,840
stanton and

4127
02:54:56,389 --> 02:54:54,720
and jim uh and the reason why i bring up

4128
02:54:58,710 --> 02:54:56,399
john anthony west

4129
02:55:01,349 --> 02:54:58,720
uh although his research was in another

4130
02:55:05,190 --> 02:55:01,359
direction including lloyd pie

4131
02:55:07,990 --> 02:55:05,200
that ventured into this uh question

4132
02:55:09,830 --> 02:55:08,000
but they were out there

4133
02:55:13,030 --> 02:55:09,840
fighting the man fighting the

4134
02:55:15,269 --> 02:55:13,040
establishment and dealing with this

4135
02:55:16,950 --> 02:55:15,279
and they are no longer here so i want to

4136
02:55:18,630 --> 02:55:16,960
recognize all of that let's go back to

4137
02:55:20,469 --> 02:55:18,640
the phones hi you're live on fade to

4138
02:55:23,110 --> 02:55:20,479
black who's calling

4139
02:55:25,910 --> 02:55:23,120
hoi hoi hoy jimmy

4140
02:55:26,710 --> 02:55:25,920
who's this this is lafayette

4141
02:55:28,950 --> 02:55:26,720
lost

4142
02:55:31,510 --> 02:55:28,960
california wow how are you man what's

4143
02:55:34,150 --> 02:55:31,520
going on

4144
02:55:36,710 --> 02:55:34,160
great show tonight jimmy

4145
02:55:39,510 --> 02:55:36,720
i got to agree that the uh

4146
02:55:43,750 --> 02:55:39,520
well the mantis looked like artificial

4147
02:55:47,429 --> 02:55:45,670
okay

4148
02:55:49,990 --> 02:55:47,439
fair enough fair enough

4149
02:55:54,309 --> 02:55:51,110
where do you

4150
02:55:55,110 --> 02:55:54,319
only

4151
02:56:02,790 --> 02:55:55,120
uh

4152
02:56:05,349 --> 02:56:02,800
contact question but are we at a a a

4153
02:56:06,790 --> 02:56:05,359
fork in the road with humanity with this

4154
02:56:09,110 --> 02:56:06,800
planet

4155
02:56:11,190 --> 02:56:09,120
do you feel that

4156
02:56:12,710 --> 02:56:11,200
oh yes these are as one of your callers

4157
02:56:14,870 --> 02:56:12,720
said these are we're just a few years

4158
02:56:17,269 --> 02:56:14,880
away from one of those younger

4159
02:56:18,950 --> 02:56:17,279
driest phenomenon with the pole shift

4160
02:56:21,190 --> 02:56:18,960
and the aliens are scooping up as much

4161
02:56:24,150 --> 02:56:21,200
genetic material as they can

4162
02:56:26,150 --> 02:56:24,160
and in the end will only be like 500 000

4163
02:56:27,429 --> 02:56:26,160
left on the planet just like there was

4164
02:56:30,070 --> 02:56:27,439
before

4165
02:56:33,349 --> 02:56:30,080
the georgia guidestone numbers

4166
02:56:35,510 --> 02:56:33,359
you know the the fermi paradox applies

4167
02:56:37,750 --> 02:56:35,520
equally well today

4168
02:56:40,309 --> 02:56:37,760
as a billion years ago aliens have been

4169
02:56:42,550 --> 02:56:40,319
here for billions of years this is

4170
02:56:44,630 --> 02:56:42,560
probably a seeded planet and they're

4171
02:56:46,389 --> 02:56:44,640
constantly seeding us that's why they

4172
02:56:48,230 --> 02:56:46,399
crash their ufos it isn't because they

4173
02:56:50,790 --> 02:56:48,240
don't know how to drive them it's

4174
02:56:52,710 --> 02:56:50,800
because they want us to make them and

4175
02:56:55,269 --> 02:56:52,720
then they scoop them up through the

4176
02:56:57,590 --> 02:56:55,279
hybrid program they breed people that

4177
02:56:59,750 --> 02:56:57,600
look like cia agents who take over the

4178
02:57:01,590 --> 02:56:59,760
programs and now they're walking off

4179
02:57:02,950 --> 02:57:01,600
with the ufos

4180
02:57:05,030 --> 02:57:02,960
well the harvest

4181
02:57:05,990 --> 02:57:05,040
sure sure that's a that's a really good

4182
02:57:07,110 --> 02:57:06,000
point

4183
02:57:08,469 --> 02:57:07,120
and

4184
02:57:15,750 --> 02:57:08,479
uh

4185
02:57:19,590 --> 02:57:15,760
matter i'm out of time but i'll say this

4186
02:57:22,950 --> 02:57:19,600
every time we had a mass extinction

4187
02:57:25,190 --> 02:57:22,960
event and there's been five every time

4188
02:57:27,190 --> 02:57:25,200
immediately after that

4189
02:57:28,870 --> 02:57:27,200
life just

4190
02:57:31,830 --> 02:57:28,880
blossomed

4191
02:57:33,750 --> 02:57:31,840
exactly i mean crazy new species

4192
02:57:37,110 --> 02:57:33,760
overnight and

4193
02:57:40,870 --> 02:57:37,120
none of this applied to

4194
02:57:42,309 --> 02:57:40,880
uh any of the evolution scenarios and

4195
02:57:45,030 --> 02:57:42,319
timelines

4196
02:57:45,910 --> 02:57:45,040
uh that have been presented to us

4197
02:57:46,950 --> 02:57:45,920
where

4198
02:57:50,630 --> 02:57:46,960
it you know

4199
02:57:53,910 --> 02:57:50,640
tens of millions of years are needed for

4200
02:57:56,710 --> 02:57:53,920
these gradual changes in in species and

4201
02:57:58,790 --> 02:57:56,720
subspecies well

4202
02:58:00,469 --> 02:57:58,800
that's not what happened after each mass

4203
02:58:02,550 --> 02:58:00,479
extinction event

4204
02:58:05,510 --> 02:58:02,560
it happened overnight

4205
02:58:07,429 --> 02:58:05,520
i mean it happened completely

4206
02:58:10,230 --> 02:58:07,439
yeah because you get rid of all the d

4207
02:58:11,990 --> 02:58:10,240
evolved that have been just adapted and

4208
02:58:13,830 --> 02:58:12,000
the only ones that survive are the ones

4209
02:58:17,190 --> 02:58:13,840
that are highly you know more advanced

4210
02:58:19,269 --> 02:58:17,200
genetically or lucky psychically and

4211
02:58:21,190 --> 02:58:19,279
that's probably partly why they're

4212
02:58:23,349 --> 02:58:21,200
breeding here i mean they are obviously

4213
02:58:25,670 --> 02:58:23,359
breeding they're interbreeding with us

4214
02:58:27,030 --> 02:58:25,680
so you know how do breeders act you know

4215
02:58:29,830 --> 02:58:27,040
they're trying to breed something for

4216
02:58:30,870 --> 02:58:29,840
some reason well and if it's happening

4217
02:58:36,309 --> 02:58:30,880
here

4218
02:58:37,429 --> 02:58:36,319
exactly the the mantis could land on any

4219
02:58:39,349 --> 02:58:37,439
planet

4220
02:58:41,030 --> 02:58:39,359
cross breed with that species create a

4221
02:58:42,790 --> 02:58:41,040
gray the greys are probably part human

4222
02:58:44,469 --> 02:58:42,800
by the way as a telepathic interface and

4223
02:58:46,790 --> 02:58:44,479
by the way you brought that up on that

4224
02:58:48,710 --> 02:58:46,800
interview with the mojave desert anjali

4225
02:58:50,230 --> 02:58:48,720
that the communication was happening to

4226
02:58:52,150 --> 02:58:50,240
the graves did you know is that like a

4227
02:58:54,469 --> 02:58:52,160
fact you know or did you just

4228
02:58:56,070 --> 02:58:54,479
find that out all right i talked to i

4229
02:58:58,550 --> 02:58:56,080
talked to way too many people i've

4230
02:59:01,030 --> 02:58:58,560
formulated the craziest

4231
02:59:03,510 --> 02:59:01,040
uh notions in this

4232
02:59:04,309 --> 02:59:03,520
massive gray goo that is in between my

4233
02:59:06,150 --> 02:59:04,319
ears

4234
02:59:07,510 --> 02:59:06,160
i have no idea but you got to do that

4235
02:59:08,950 --> 02:59:07,520
because i mean you got you got to have

4236
02:59:10,309 --> 02:59:08,960
you got to have a paradigm that works

4237
02:59:12,469 --> 02:59:10,319
that fits the evidence that's why the

4238
02:59:15,670 --> 02:59:12,479
paradigm were handed by society that oh

4239
02:59:17,830 --> 02:59:15,680
it's all just you know sleep paralysis

4240
02:59:19,190 --> 02:59:17,840
oh by the way i saw a move an old nova

4241
02:59:20,550 --> 02:59:19,200
from 96

4242
02:59:22,230 --> 02:59:20,560
that that they were trying to say was

4243
02:59:23,590 --> 02:59:22,240
just sleep paralysis and the abduction

4244
02:59:25,110 --> 02:59:23,600
but one of the abductees in the bud

4245
02:59:26,710 --> 02:59:25,120
hopkins group that was in the movie was

4246
02:59:28,950 --> 02:59:26,720
talking about this giant underwater

4247
02:59:30,389 --> 02:59:28,960
bubble with no visible signs of support

4248
02:59:32,550 --> 02:59:30,399
that he was taken to i'm still going man

4249
02:59:34,870 --> 02:59:32,560
this is 96 you sound exactly like that

4250
02:59:36,630 --> 02:59:34,880
malibu underground base that

4251
02:59:37,910 --> 02:59:36,640
helped discover

4252
02:59:40,630 --> 02:59:37,920
like the support beans are on the

4253
02:59:42,389 --> 02:59:40,640
outside yeah lafayette enjoy your night

4254
02:59:43,990 --> 02:59:42,399
man and thank you for the phone call i

4255
02:59:45,349 --> 02:59:44,000
gotta run credits and get out of here

4256
02:59:47,429 --> 02:59:45,359
thank you so much my friends all right

4257
02:59:50,469 --> 02:59:47,439
well thanks for taking the call and

4258
02:59:53,190 --> 02:59:50,479
remember jimmy the crux of consciousness

4259
02:59:54,710 --> 02:59:53,200
is the apostrophe it's time to fade to

4260
02:59:56,950 --> 02:59:54,720
black

4261
02:59:58,550 --> 02:59:56,960
thank you lafayette have a great night

4262
03:00:01,269 --> 02:59:58,560
and uh

4263
03:00:03,269 --> 03:00:01,279
this is this i i i've got to run and get

4264
03:00:05,349 --> 03:00:03,279
out of here and and get to tomorrow

4265
03:00:07,510 --> 03:00:05,359
night but i think it's one of the most

4266
03:00:09,349 --> 03:00:07,520
important points

4267
03:00:11,830 --> 03:00:09,359
that uh

4268
03:00:13,590 --> 03:00:11,840
we are at right now and that is

4269
03:00:15,510 --> 03:00:13,600
you can't stop life

4270
03:00:19,269 --> 03:00:15,520
you cannot stop it

4271
03:00:22,469 --> 03:00:19,279
life is going to create itself and and

4272
03:00:26,550 --> 03:00:22,479
continue and we are not the only planet

4273
03:00:28,150 --> 03:00:26,560
doing it it's everywhere

4274
03:00:30,870 --> 03:00:28,160
it's everywhere

4275
03:00:31,990 --> 03:00:30,880
everyone look up into the starry sky

4276
03:00:34,870 --> 03:00:32,000
tonight

4277
03:00:36,710 --> 03:00:34,880
every star you see has got a planet or

4278
03:00:38,950 --> 03:00:36,720
two or ten

4279
03:00:41,269 --> 03:00:38,960
and somewhat one of those stars you are

4280
03:00:42,309 --> 03:00:41,279
looking at somebody's looking right back

4281
03:00:45,510 --> 03:00:42,319
at you

4282
03:00:47,670 --> 03:00:45,520
life is everywhere and that's it there's

4283
03:00:49,030 --> 03:00:47,680
no other way to look at it what a great

4284
03:00:51,429 --> 03:00:49,040
show tonight i want to thank whitley

4285
03:00:53,510 --> 03:00:51,439
strieber for coming in fade to black

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03:00:55,910 --> 03:00:53,520
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03:00:58,630 --> 03:00:55,920
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4289
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4290
03:01:05,269 --> 03:01:03,040
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03:01:09,750 --> 03:01:07,359
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03:01:15,830 --> 03:01:13,680
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4298
03:01:23,030 --> 03:01:21,439
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4299
03:01:24,469 --> 03:01:23,040
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03:01:26,389 --> 03:01:24,479
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4301
03:01:28,230 --> 03:01:26,399
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4302
03:01:31,190 --> 03:01:28,240
mike rick sucker

4303
03:01:33,269 --> 03:01:31,200
the alaska triangle until then i want

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03:01:41,000 --> 03:01:33,279
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